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Tone Controls Poll (2)

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Poll Question: Would you buy a preamp with tone controls?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote suede Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 2013 at 5:00pm
Maybe a "How important do you think TC are in a preamp" scale poll would bring it more into light.
It seems most people wouldn't mind them if they trusted the underlying engineering but I don't think many would find them essential really. Confused Speaking for myself at least.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kwmac Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 2013 at 5:31pm

Firstly yes, I think I would buy a (GSP) preamp with tone controls – emphasis, though, on the reference to GSP.

To explain briefly, I am uncertain how GSP fits into the general UK/EU audio landscape. My observation, made from the ‘frozen colonies’, would  characterize GSP as a small ‘boutique’ builder that holds to a ‘form follows function’ approach and is very focused on the musical output. With that knowledge, and having trust in Graham’s desire and ability to stay true to his reputation, a preamp with defeatable tone controls would be a non-issue for me.

I’m thinking that, regardless of their personal preference for tone controls, most of those considering a GSP purchase will most likely by familiar Graham’s ability to execute and, therefore, would not be totally put off.  And the loan program is always there to measure GSP’s success, (though sadly not for me).

Assuming no huge cost differential, I would think there would be more upside to GSP including tone controls for those who have expressed interest, and then relying on their expertise and reputation (and the loan program) to sway most of those with misgivings.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JamesD Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 2013 at 6:24pm
Decisions decisions... I bet Graham is wishing he'd stuck with 'simple' phono stages ;-)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mitch65 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 2013 at 6:27pm
Originally posted by JamesD JamesD wrote:

Decisions decisions... I bet Graham is wishing he'd stuck with 'simple' phono stages ;-)

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bradders Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 2013 at 6:58pm
Originally posted by JamesD JamesD wrote:

Decisions decisions... I bet Graham is wishing he'd stuck with 'simple' phono stages ;-)

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote marshmid Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 2013 at 7:14pm
There could be a good case for employing tone controls in a preamp if it is likely that it will be used to connect a variety of sources and amplifiers.

Naim for example, build a variety of sources and ampliers. So you could argue that you will never need tone controls if using their matched components.

However, if you were a small manufacturer of a wonderfully pure preamp, it could apparently upset the balance of a very bright source or amp. In addition, DACS seem to offer oppurtunity for a huge number of input sources such as mobile phones, tablets and laptops. In such cases, tone controls would be appropriate.

The key would be to persuade the purists, that the tone controls didn't affect the sound output when switched out and didn't add too much to the overall cost.

So, I am arguing both ways. Methinks, there may be an opening for me in politics.
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I like to at least have the option of tone controls - sometimes, a mood just takes me to try out a tweak here or there. Always end up going to the 'flat' or bypass mode, but in a way, they help make me realise the value of neutrality.
In my opinion, it is the mostly missing 'third' tone control of midrange that would provide the most benefit these days, with the rise of compressed audio.
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