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I have never looked at spec's of any bit of HiFi that I have had in the past only can I plug (CD Turntable or tape) into the amp but then most you can anyway, but best to check .
Spec's mean nothing! If it sounds cr-p. If you are going Digital then yes I think you have to (don't know much about that side of thinks) as I only have a CD player.
Listen with your ears not the spec's   THATS what say
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Agreed. Listening is believing as I wrote on the forum some years ago.
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I'm far from an "objectivist" (whatever that is), but I have found that some consideration of gain matching with my turntable and in-room measurements have helped optimize the gear I can afford. 

I say this because these things are virtually free, and I see people who roll new gear in and out of their rooms. 

I'll also say that the cable debates are THE MOST TEDIOUS dead horse in audio, but I do tend to look to other industries—like medical and defense. If these industries are paying up for technology, then one can certainly argue that they don't apply to audio because nobody can hear the differences, but trying to argue that these technologies are snake oil and that the medical and defense industries are being defrauded really takes the cake.
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I do think cables between major components matter, not that I could hear the differences clearly as it is not as easy to do thorough side-by-side comparisons like with headphones or speakers. Their impedance, capacitance, inductance, material, length and EM shielding may be able to affect the audibility of frequency balance, phase problems and distortion and stereo image changes.

I bet my system would sound really off if I removed all my Lautus interconnects and replaced them with cheap alternatives or those of silver construction. It would be like changing the PCB layouts of the circuit boards if you introduce antenna-long cables with no shielding at all. The characteristics of a cable would have to be drastically unsuitable for me to hear a difference though I think. Asking me to differentiate between a Lautus and CuSat50 interconnect in a blind test would likely be inconclusive, seeing as they are almost of equal construction.
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And yet some (many) would argue that every cable has it's own "sound" and there have been reams of drivel written about how a particular cable improves (always improves) the system it's used in!

Now...I have heard differences. Subtle differences that even one as loquacious as I would have extreme difficulty describing or quantifying. But not placebo. I think. 

And there I shall leave it for now, because cable debates are so outré...Wink
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Originally posted by jupiterboy jupiterboy wrote:

but trying to argue that these technologies are snake oil and that the medical and defense industries are being defrauded really takes the cake.

Hi Mark!

From a GB perspective, I can only add that our "defence" industry is regularly defrauded (and worse) by suppliers such as BAe, Siemens et al - see Private Eye passim, ad nauseam.... AngryShockedEvil Smile

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I gauge a product's true worth by whether I enjoy listening with it or not. If I'm not enjoying what I'm hearing as much, there's my answer, regardless of its expense. I've never been someone who likes to write pages and pages of pretentious bollocks to try to delude myself and others that something is better than it actually is. A recent headphone comparison I did several weeks back between two earspeaker headphones was summed up in pretty much one paragraph. Good thing I didn't write it on head-fi; all the fakers would have been like: "well this 'review' sucks..." because I just skipped to the conclusion and said "Yep, one sounds better than the other. I know because I enjoy music more through one than the other".

With cable comparisons, I would just say: "Yeah, the sound has improved purity and resolution when I use this cable in place of the other one" or "I can't hear any difference in the sound through either". The comprehensive story-telling reviews tend to piss me off because they rarely give the reader anything conclusive or truthful, sometimes leaving them more confused or with more questions. Maybe it's just me but there are very few audio "professionals" that I trust online. I can count them on one hand and struggle to count them on two.


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