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Is High End dying?
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I came across this thread on the Squeezebox forum. Although a lot is specifically concerned with measurements of various SB devices, there is a lot of general interest - such as measurements of lossy v. lossless files, and differences in sampling rates.

Quite a few "audiophile" myths are debunked - if you accept the findings - and a lot of what we've been saying here is echoed.

BTW, anyone for purified air to get better wi-fi? Work your way through the thread . . . Wink
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Thanks Bob, very interesting information and thought provoking.
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Hello all, Im new to the forum and interested in having a look at Graham Slee products but this thread did catch my attention. 

Firstly my hifi source is my Arcam FMJ CD37.  Does a good job but I have also aquired a syabus popcorn hour A410 media streamer and have films and music stored on a NAS.  The convience of this is now starting to out weigh its deficits in audio quality, although still sounds good, namely having the ability to create a jukebox, playlists and streaming apps such as spotify.   

I have always been put off my spotify due to it being lossy (premium is 320kb tho) but then heard of Qobuz, which is a streaming services like spotify but streams flac as well.  Just wondering if anyone has any experience of using this service?
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Originally posted by UKMach UKMach wrote:

The convience of this is now starting to out weigh its deficits in audio quality, although still sounds good, namely having the ability to create a jukebox...


Welcome to our forum, but regarding the above comment, maybe this isn't the place to be?
That none should be able to park up and enjoy the view without a smartphone and the knowledge in how to use apps
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My apologies, what I was referring to was in regards to comparison of the Arcam CD player to the popcorn hour.  They are both at different levels in terms of sound quality but the media streamer having the convience of all my music in one place as opposed to having to get up, find a CD and then listen to music.  I guess what I was trying to say is that I find my self evolving towards streamers these days but also still hang onto my CD player for the love of the sound.  Incidently Ive actually come to your forums to look at your coax cd cable for my CD player to see if this can improve upon this and to hear what it can sound like


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Is High End dying?

Well, if you mean highest fidelity audio reproduction then yes, it's certainly on its way there.

But Graham Slee is still here in the meantime so get it whilst you can because once it's gone, it is well and truly gone.
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Hi UKMach, trust me to get it out of context... Embarrassed

Yes, convenience does have it! True high-end audio is highly inconvenient. Even remote controlled volume control electronics (the ones that drive motor-pots) put interference on the signal, yet some consider products with remotes as being high-end.

It's at times like this I regret not having a nice big pension pot...
That none should be able to park up and enjoy the view without a smartphone and the knowledge in how to use apps
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