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ellisdj
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Posted: 21 Oct 2011 at 11:01am |
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I am in this position and I bet most are in the same. This was very much the same with the subwoofer – we have introduced a neat little gizmo called an Antimode that equalises your bass to reduce unwanted peaks that the room causes. This results in much better bass for both music and films. My overall point of all this is that equalisation on my main system has made a dramatic improvement to the overall sound! I wouldn’t dream of listening to music now or watching a film with it turned off! I am also not saying a stereo Krell with no eq wouldn’t sound better for stereo than my Pioneer as I am sure it would – however I know my room would still have its effect on my 805’s. Therefore why are headphones any different really ? If I had not had such positive results equalising my main system I would not even dream of eq them – however the results with my main system have been so dramatic – I have heard clearly the improvements that can be made I was more than willing to try. Now if I bypass the eq Electri Q on foobar things sound very wrong / bad – similar to how they sound when I switch over to pure direct on my AVR . I can clearly hear the peaks at the frequencies that do when listening to music – this makes voices sstt at times, sound high pitched – it exaggerates symbols and masks the clarity and spaciousness that comes through in the mid range. None of that is right – that won’t have been how it was recorded. For example Bob Marley - Legend CD – most people probably own it. Track 5 Buffalo Solider – when the eq is on and right you can hear two backing singers voices one in each channel / ear clearly come in each side and sing from behind / the side of you during the chorus – when its off the sound is there but it’s just a muddle with the rest of it. That’s just one easy example I can think of that easy for you to test. You need to also consider with eq the headphones – you are only reducing – never adding anything to the sound – i.e. only lowering frequencies! Therefore you are not adding distortion – you are actually reducing inherent kind of distoretion that’s caused by the headphones being on your ears. You are certainly not adding bass and not adding treble – IN FACT if your system is setup close to a flat curve you will never need to add or take away anything – you will be able to listen to EVERYTHING and know the way you are hearing it is how it sounds / supposed to sound. Edited by ellisdj - 21 Oct 2011 at 11:39am |
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suede
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Posted: 21 Oct 2011 at 5:26pm |
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I've never lamented the lack of an EQ on my UL since I seem to have a slight aversion towards them in the first place. However I have sometimes missed the good old mono switch when listening to old mono records with a stereo pickup.
Edit: Sorry, didn't read the thread properly. Thought it was about old timey analog equalizers. Edited by suede - 22 Oct 2011 at 2:14am |
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Fatmangolf
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Posted: 21 Oct 2011 at 8:25pm |
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If it helps I used Audessey auto-setup on my Denon home cinema amp. 7 channels and a sub is more than I want to do manually! In fact it helped me choose the next amp because it does a very good job IMO. But I use a stereo amp on the front L/R and do all the moving around of left and right speakers for 2.0 before running Audessey.
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Jon
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ellisdj
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Posted: 21 Oct 2011 at 9:05pm |
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That seems a common solution to overcome typical lacking stereo performance of AV amps - however a problem of that is you then have a different sonic characteristic to your front 2 main speakers - from your other 5.
With home cinema you want it all to match as much as possible i.e. same speakers etc, especially across the front 3, thats your main sound stage. Its expensive to get the perfect solution - however I can strongly recommed the Pioneer top end AV Amp range - the lX83 is simply stunning - I upgraded from the very highly regarded and very good Yamaha Z7 - the Pioneer LX-83 however is in a different league. The new LX85 is supposed to be stunning in Pure direct as well now relieving the need for a stereo amp - I still stand by the fact that it will sound better after a calibration and in stereo mode i.e. crossing over, using the eq, standiung wave correction etc, however for the purist you can have your cake and eat it |
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