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Digitising LPs - a question for Graham |
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zwazoo
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Graham, I was just wondering depending on how the switch activated removal of the equalization circuit was placed in the circuit could cause an output impedance change such that it could cause distortion to the signal. Your explanation with actual electrical theory as apposed the more main stream explanations is refreshing and I now understand what the problems are. Could the "100:1 level difference" problem be solved with a phone preamp integrated into the ADC? Tom |
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tg [RIP]
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Long time with no input to this thread, I have now moved it to the more recently created digital audio forum under the appropriate heading.
A few more thoughts on this recent exercise when I gather it together. Edited by tg - 30 Nov 2012 at 5:24am |
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Fatmangolf
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Thanks Tony, this is very useful information.
Jon
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Jon
Open mind and ears whilst owning GSP Genera, Accession M, Accession MC, Elevator EXP, Solo ULDE, Proprius amps, Cusat50 cables, Lautus digital cable, Spatia cables and links, and a Majestic DAC. |
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Sylvain
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Graham
The 'Genera' was des9ged to be a capable , flexible . modification friendly to alow DIYers the opportuity customise to their specific requiremet ad your comprehensive narrative o the desig ad the rationale for every component got me excited and I jumped ad built ad happy.. Subsequently heard that you were producing a 'wonder' encapsulated little magic of components to add the ''valvee flavour'' but this never came about for the NOVO or the GENERA that I built. Now I am caught by another bug...digitizig Vinyl to 24/96 and i have researched all the Forum exchanges and again the comprehesive text you provided i the project. I list the issues as Follows:-
Of all my reserach You provide the most lucid explanation of the technical constraints and semm well glued and whilst some companies are ow producig ADC icorporated Phono are you likely to go down that road. IS THE GENERA 'Generic desig suitable for modification fo the purpose to icoorporate a ADC card and matchig with Stylus cartridege. Can you assist us ad those itrested ad ay plans for a KIT of the subject .. Regards and enjoy the rain indoors with music. Sylvain'
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Graham Slee
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Sylvain, yes the valvee sound - I'd not forgot. It's just that time seems to fly doing my job - I wish it wouldn't...
The donor op-amp needs to have certain characteristics for a phono stage more so than a line stage or headphone amp. This is because it has the job of charging and discharging the EQ network symmetrically and few op-amps can do that (and discrete circuits can be even worse!). I'm still hunting one that does the symmetry as well as having the necessary output current - plus the secret ingredient. The existing op-amp in the Genera does everything else. As is usual for me I like to see what my competitors do and then go the opposite direction . The phono stage ADC is something I've been investigating for a while now. It should hopefully happen this year, but 5 months of it are almost already gone, and I do have a pile of design work to get through this year. As for post ADC EQ, that should be a non-starter because of dynamic range limitations in the analogue domain. If you just count the dynamic range envelope for the signal you will need 40dB which is easy. But that does not consider the S/N ratio. Neither does it consider the vinyl noise (clicks and pops) whose rising edges are above 20kHz and that has to be equated with the rising response of a magnetic cartridge. For my standards of reproduction this is simply not feasible. Others may disagree but the proof is in the listening and from my previous experience I know it will not sound as good as I'd want it to be. Edited by Graham Slee - 14 May 2013 at 6:06pm |
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