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    Posted: 29 Feb 2012 at 2:09am
Hi all!
 
I have a Graham Slee Voyager and not too long ago I aquired some Beyer DT880s/250ohm.
 
The sound, as I have commented on in previous posts, is really nice.
 
However, what I think would be more preferable to my tastes is a headphone that delivers a warmer, more intimate listening experience. The Beyers sound  very "airy" and "detailed" but I am willing to sacrifice this, to a degree, for a "thicker" "warmer" more "intimate" listen.
 
I have heard that the Sennheiser 600s and 650s offer some of the characteristics I have mentioned but am unsure whether the Voyager is able to drive the Sennheisers to "reasonable" listening levels (I like listening to my music quite loud from time to time).
 
I would also consider closed headphones.
 
Can anyone be kind enough to make some suggestions please?
 
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Maybe I am expecting too much, after all, the amp and headphones will only be connected to an ipod. Lol.
 
 
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Hi, are you using a line out dock from the iPod to feed your Voyager? If not look into getting one to obtain the best possible sound. Then you may not wish to get rid of your Beyer, by the way from what year are they? Post a picture if you can.
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Hi
Thanks for your reply.
 
Yes, I am using a line out. And, my Beyers are the latest version. Do the Beyers differ much with each iteration?
 
I have been thinking that maybe I don't care so much for a big soundstage. Lately I have been using my "lesser quality" Grado GR8 IEMs for listening to music. The grado's don't have much of/if any soundstage but I really like them, the GR8 intimacy and and warmth is  really comfortable and pleasant. As far as I am aware though, the GR8s differ quite considerably comapared to the "typical" Grado sound.
 
I would really like to buy some headphones that offer similar characteristic as the GR8s but at the same time, take a step up in sound quality.
 
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I tried the latest (2005 version) with an older (2003) version and preferred the older unit. Of course we all hear differently and your milage will vary. I have not listened to the GR8 so I cannot comment.
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I have read many comments suggesting that the older Beyers are better than the newer ones. Funny, I always thought that technology improved as it evolved.
 
I have done an immense amount of reading trying to find the "perfect" audio set up but unfortunately the more knowledge I acquire the more uncertain and confused I become.
 
To be honest I think the less one knows about audio, and maybe life too for that matter, the easier it is to be content; just go out, buy something, and enjoy the music.
 
I remember the first time I bought my own "music system", it had a turntable and twin cassette only. Thinking back, the sound was awful. Still, that did not prevent or hinder my musical enjoyment when listening to it, and I don't enjoy the music any more now, even though my currest system sounds much better than my old one. The most important thing is the music, anything else, i.e., the sound quality, is a bonus.
 
Thanks for your replies.
 
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Hi Simon, I recently auditioned several cans including senn hd650 with a novo. They sounded extremely good, but to my ears erring towards the warmer sound that I didn't find as appealing, making my metal music sound boring compared to the grado sr325is I eventually bought. I haven't listened to the gr8 but from what I have read, all Grados have a similar sound signature, but saying that, some prefer lower end Grados claiming less sibilance to the sr325is & some say the grado rs range are warmer sounding,claiming the use of wood being the cause of this. I personally have listened to the grado 80i & the sr325is & would never refer to them as warm, in this case I would say the sennheiser would be better, but would recommend that you try listen before you buy, people hear differently & you may disagree with all others opinion. Other cans that are warmer sounding, but bass heavy (IMO) are the denon adh 5000. With regards to the voyager ability to power something such as the hd650, which I think are 300 ohms, I would have thought would be okay ( but im no expert & others on this forum will know better) but obviously won't play as loud, I have only used my voyager with low impedance cans, & again hopefully others will be able to advise on this, but I suppose what your definition of loud is? Incidentally, if you decide to buy other cans, I may be interested in adding the beyers to my collection if you decide to sell them, letme know
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Simon, I forgot to mention that despite my grado sr325is, Phiaton ps500 & recent denon ahd500, I constantly use my B&W P5 with my iPod & voyager, to my ears they sound absolutely superb & with the voyager/iPod combo IMO provide better sound over my other listed cans, & look rather good to boot! However, the P5 sound poor in comparison to the other cans when using my old nove & current Solo UL. I can only imagine that this is relating to the fact that the P5 were designed for apple products. Another gsp forum regular (& v helpful & knowledgable member) described the P5 as being warm sounding, I personally disagree, but because his ears heard a war sound,you May too, & the P5 are readily available to listen to at apple shops. I know you mentioned wanting an upgrade, but as I was rightly advised by others in this forum when i thought better meant more money, costing more doesn't always matter, & my Phiatons were half the price of the Grados, yet I find myself reaching for them more than my Grados & denons when using the Solo UL, & as stated earlier, my P5 when using iPod/voyager.
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