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Graham Slee
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Topic: Solo UL noise cut ten-fold!Posted: 05 Feb 2012 at 5:32pm |
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Since the launch of the Solo Ultra-Linear nearly two and a half years ago, the popularity of ultra-high sensitivity headphones has soared.
The Ultra-Linear was purposely designed to cater for the difficult headphones of 3 or more years ago, and has done a really good job of it, but 3 years is a long time compared with the rate of "progress". Although numbers of members here are quite happy with the existing Solo Ultra-Linear noise floor, some of the younger generation with a hankering after ultra sensitivity headphones have put together their more sensitive hearing with even more sensitivity from the earpieces, and obviously can hear a whisper level hiss. What they really want is a completely dead background. I may bemoan such trends but I nevertheless have to grasp the problem and come up with the solution. So, I've been working on ways to reduce noise from the UL's considerably low 78dB output noise. It's no good reducing noise and not doing the same for the distortion. Noise masks distortion and I reckon if people can hear hiss at something like -78dB then it could be possible they'd hear distortion at 0.015% (typical for a Solo Ultra-Linear) because that's -76dB at the outputs. What I've managed to do without doing away with the Ultra-Linear technology is get the noise down 10 times lower at -98dB and distortion down to 0.0072% (typical) which is -83dB THD+N. Now, should we add yet another Solo to the range? I think not. The lower noise UL has all the sonic hallmarks of the existing one, so I reckon we simply move over to the revised edition. But what about the Solo SRGII. It sold to those who didn't want to compromise noise performance. With an ultra-low noise Solo Ultra-Linear, the SRGII would seem superfluous? |
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Posted: 05 Feb 2012 at 8:06pm |
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That's great to hear (no pun intended
) Graham. Personally speaking it won't affect me as I'm not aware of any hiss on my UL as it is, but it may serve to silence those critics who cannot find anything else to nit-pick with its performance. ![]() I don't see why that should make the Solo SRGII superfluous, though, any more than it will the Novo. You cannot simply have a "flagship" model on its own, without others in a range by which to define it as such. They all have their own sound signatures and occupy different pricing-points, so each has its place in appealing to people with differing budgets and feature needs accordingly. ![]() |
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Posted: 05 Feb 2012 at 8:11pm |
Thank you for your words of wisdom |
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Posted: 05 Feb 2012 at 11:34pm |
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I agree with Hotmog. I was enjoying my '06 solo/basic psu very much with HD25 and HD250 yesterday afternoon (black background etc.). Graham, as you wrote a little while ago about differences and human responses, why not embrace the variety - to the extent that your manufacturing process can accomodate the cost of that variation in production terms of course
.The old noisy UL <joke> is just a different experience and, with most cans, a step up - especially the Shures. Wierd! Thanks again for delivering great products at good value prices, made in England. All 3 of your products in our house get used several times a week now (UL in the lounge, '06 in the bedroom, Voyager walking/train). So in a rare quiet moment, imagine that at any given moment in time there will probably be XX hundred people in the world having their ears & brains massaged by one of your creations .Best James
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Posted: 06 Feb 2012 at 1:21am |
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Given the rather sizeable userbase of those "hard to drive" cans, one assumes that the ability to drive them is not lessened by the further noise reduction development. I do tend to agree WRT continuing the availability of the SRG II, much as the EGV continues, for those who prefer that signature. |
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Posted: 06 Feb 2012 at 2:02am |
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Hi Graham
Will there be any DIY kits for already owners of the Solo UL, or maybe a send in service of some kind? Best wishes Johan |
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Posted: 06 Feb 2012 at 7:44am |
Good question. I don't have every headphone on the market but I do have a selection of 10 headphones to hand... 300 Ohm units: HD800 HD600 HD650 (out on loan) HD250 (now two pairs) Canford DMH285 32 Ohm units: PMX200 SR60 (pre-i) ATH A900 64 Ohm units: ATH A700 K701 ...out of which, the SR60 is proving to be the hardest to coax a performance out of right now. |
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