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Topic: SL1200 - respect!Posted: 25 Jul 2008 at 12:52pm |
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I have, this last week or so, been tidying the old SL1200 that sits with some other salvaged kit in my office. Some disassembly revealed that it was apparently designed and built by the same firm that did Stonehenge. Similarly, the engineering of arm tower and VTA adjustment should cause many 'high end' manufacturers to hang their heads in shame. Anyway, rebuilt, cleaned up and lubed up (actually Walter our 74 y/o engineer did the hard bits) and with decent RCA plugs and arm lead on it: it started to sound pretty good. Then I took off the AT110e and stuck the much mentioned G1042 in it. This brought out more detail but even with the fannying about the 1042 needs to get the best from it, it didn’t really sound that exciting. Yesterday though, I stuck the Ringmat XLR that used to sit on my LP12 on it, re-set what must be the best VTA adjuster ever (better than on my new Encounter), then had a listen. It sounded great, really lively, forward, vocally present and musical. I’d always thought that the Ringmat did a slightly better job than the felt mat on the LP12 but using it instead of the standard slab of rubber that’s on the SL1200, really lights things up. We have over the years installed loads of SL1200' (latterly 1210’s) but this is the first time I have ever properly set one up and listened to it. In fact, if I’m honest, I’d looked down my nose at them a bit because they had too many knobs, sliders and buttons and I associated them with DJ’s. DJ's (in our world) are the people who break our lovely installs and who use cartridges that look like lathe tools, which track at such force, that I am always surprised not to see spirals of vinyl coming from the stylus. My apologies in advance to all DJ’s! Anyway, this little project just goes to show how wrong ones assumptions can be. The SL1200 (and I assume the 1210) is a proper hi-fi record player and I can’t think of anything else, around the price, that is engineered to such a high standard. Respect! Edited by IvanM - 25 Jul 2008 at 1:01pm |
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I'd like to agree with you but then we'd both be wrong.
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Posted: 25 Jul 2008 at 1:53pm |
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Hi Ivan,
yes, the SL1200 is my #2 and the one I was running the DL103 on. I thought to try that combo as one of the tnt-audio reviewers seemed to think it worked OK. While not bad at all and much better with the Exp than the SUT I did not feel it handled that cartridge as well as the Tecnoarm (with added weight on the cartridge). Initially I was unsure as to whether this was due to the arm or the lower grade wiring. The Tecnoarm uses single piece Deskadel silver from cartridge tags to phono plugs. I had added as much mass as the Technics arm could handle by using a heavy Sumiko style headshell. Having now swapped that out and put on the DL 301 II, a much higher compliance cartridge and that works much better, so while I still hear limitations from the wiring compared to the Tecnoarm this is a much better pairing. I suspect that the wiring may be more of a limiting factor with low output cartridges than with the much higher output of typical MM or HOMC cartridges. It would seem that your engineer has addressed part of this already and it is an upgrade I think I would make. FWIW the best results I have had with various combinations of mats (the Ringmat is not one I have to try) was using a 2mm SRM silicone mat to damp the platter ringing and a 3mm Achromat to handle the vinyl resonances combined with a 450 gm puck which gives much better grip and drive. Yes, it is a hell of a lot of engineering for the price and very user friendly and maintainable and sounds good too :D AFAIK the 1210 is black the 1200 silver otherwise the same. |
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