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Semiconductor silicon is made using coal
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Originally posted by Graham Slee Graham Slee wrote:

I remember their transistors were cheap enough for me to buy from what was left of my meagre wages (1970s).

I've always wondered why all of this happened, and for good reason, because these "unseen" combinations bust my little business back in the 80's.

Zetex transistors, I remember those too.
As to the disappearance of such industries, I think much was down to short sightedness and short termism. The resulting management mindset then focussed on cutting production costs by getting components made in the Far East thereby releasing facilities and land for a quick return for owners and shareholders. No thoughts of progressing and improving their industries. Take the money and run.
Remember the "Brain Drain" of the 70s? Not all the expertise went to America.
The whole process of "outsourcing" even more favoured by business now, just leads to expertise being lost.
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Originally posted by BackinBlack BackinBlack wrote:

As to the disappearance of such industries, I think much was down to short sightedness and short termism. The resulting management mindset then focussed on cutting production costs by getting components made in the Far East thereby releasing facilities and land for a quick return for owners and shareholders. No thoughts of progressing and improving their industries.

I think that is what they want you to believe, and some of the points you make might have a more sinister back story. I am also of the opinion that Scargill, Thatcher and MacGregor were a "threesome."

Chinese goods are cheap - in China - but factor in shipping costs and it makes them the same price as they would be if made here. It has done very well for very large corporations (eg Maersk) however, but not for the UK population as a whole.

Mass production and hence the industrial revolution was arguably started by Arkwright at Cromford Mill near Matlock in Derbyshire (I've known it for some considerable time, but the video should be evidence), but our ignorant woke PM mistakenly cancelled James Watt in his speech at COP26.

My varied career has shown me glimpses behind the curtain which lead me to question many things.


I will add that I think the final piece about Arkwright inventing unemployment due to cheap labour must have been insisted upon by the woke BBC (they invented wokeism didn't they). Quite obviously the machines provided cheapness removing the need for cheap labour - yes. probably resulting in unemployment - but it does not justify Hart-Davis' saying it made it possible to set up factories in other countries due to cheap labour - when the machines were doing all the work!!!

But, getting back to the point of this topic, I was showing the reader that semiconductors are not made from sand, but quartz and coal, and that we are being lied to by those who say the opposite, who don't have one scrap of evidence to support what they say.






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"even the silicon chips inside our phones and computers – along with virtually every other piece of electronic equipment in your home – are made from sand."

More lies from the BBC (https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20191108-why-the-world-is-running-out-of-sand)
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Originally posted by Graham Slee Graham Slee wrote:


But, getting back to the point of this topic, I was showing the reader that semiconductors are not made from sand, but quartz and coal, ...
What an I missing; Intel says they make them out of sand?
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Originally posted by ICL1P ICL1P wrote:

Originally posted by Graham Slee Graham Slee wrote:


But, getting back to the point of this topic, I was showing the reader that semiconductors are not made from sand, but quartz and coal, ...
What an I missing; Intel says they make them out of sand?

I'm not surprised that a large corporation says that. Yup, just melt sand and you've got pure semiconductor grade silicon! I mean, with all the climate change and fossil fuel scandal, you're not going to admit you use coal and quarry quartz, are you?

Wonder if they've tried the sand at Cleethorpes?!! Wink

(sand is not pure enough and contains mud, other rocks, carboniferous remains, bone, sea shells, fossils, other metal ores, etc)
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PS. wouldn't the sand clog the furnace?

Do they use sand to extinguish fires - in those red buckets?


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