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I hope you will enjoy them once they reach a consistent performance.
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Originally posted by Ash Ash wrote:

So the 10P response from 80Hz-20kHz is basically +/- 5dB SPL on-axis and that's at about 90dB at perhaps 1m distance? So for a cardboard nearfield open baffle, the listening volume will be quite a bit lower so response will likely be even flatter. So before any kind of EQ is applied, I consider that to be a pretty neutral response for a speaker. 

During listening comparisons, I prefer its tonality to the 11MS; well to all of the Mark Audio metal drivers actually. It greatly resembles the sound balance I expect from a headphone. MySphere is flat +/- 3dB so it's not too far off. I prefer metal to paper as a cone material but their responses tend to feature lifts in the upper bass for baffle step correction and in the treble for better off-axis levels. 10P has a very shallow cone profile too for wider dispersion. 

I have recently acquired a pair of CHP-90 which are much cheaper and are more bass capable but with a less shallow cone (it is more of a woofer in terms of bass loads). I need to compare it against the 10P. The pair of CHP-90 cost £130 and should at least match the 10P in performance. I consider that to be incredible value for money and makes headphone audio seem completely overpriced if you already have a pair of Proprius.

Frequency responses are usually measured between 20Hz and 20kHz.
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Originally posted by Ash Ash wrote:

I hope you will enjoy them once they reach a consistent performance.


Oh, but I am already enjoying them! It's only a matter of getting used to the slightly different sound signature (and the relative lack of coloration in comparison, although it was a very pleasant coloration) after 14 years.

It's definitely spectacular with well recorded orchestral music: big swing bands sound 3D and alive, much more than with the 7000! More natural and clean, too. The drumming isn't fat, but much more hard hitting.


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Frequency responses are usually measured between 20Hz and 20kHz.

Even at close range, the 10P will need deep bass support. The shallow profile shows it's clearly not a woofer. The CHP-90 on the other hand should be much more capable in the lower bass but only at close range. An EQ curve could be used to help too. Don't see any other single drivers doing the entire audible range.
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I have a very specific torture test for bass on a headphone.

Peter Gabriel, from the album "Up": track 2, "Growing up". 

It's a track that I am scared to play on lesser headphones, and certainly not on new ones. It has a drumline so deep that you fear for the integrity of the drivers. 

Well, the test has been passed with flying colours. The 7000 passed it but with a certain resonance and fatness. The 7200 passes it with authoritative control: menacing and deep, but never a hint of flabbiness. Wow! 
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