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Right now I only have a Monster PRO 1000 with Clean Power Stage 2 power strip.
I finally broke my piggy bank open and bought Reflex M /PSU1, so I think I need something better to plug it into to.
I'm probably the worlds poorest audiophiles, so the next piece of gear I'm saving up for is a Rega TT,
so I don't have a lot of money to spend on a power conditioner or regenerator.
So I was thinking about buying a used PS Audio UPC-200, or some used gear for around $300.
So does anyone have any suggestions on what used gear for around $300 I can plug the PSU1 into?

Also I read the two popular Power Conditions are Passive & Active.
I've read active tend to change the sound to much, so it's better to go with passive.  
Is that really true, or just it just depend on the Brand and Model?
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Originally posted by garygillespie garygillespie wrote:

So does anyone have any suggestions on what used gear for around $300 I can plug the PSU1 into?


The power socket - you already bought it Wink
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Originally posted by Graham Slee Graham Slee wrote:

Originally posted by garygillespie garygillespie wrote:

So does anyone have any suggestions on what used gear for around $300 I can plug the PSU1 into?


The power socket - you already bought it Wink

Thank you, that's a relieve to hear. 
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So I'm going to upgrade my receptacle, and these are the ones I'm considering:
VooDoo-Hubbell IG 8300, Oyaide R1, Shunyata Research SR-Z1, Furutech FPX (R), Furutech GTX-D, Synergistic Research Tesla Plex SE.

So most of these are rated at 15 or 20 amp.

So would it be ok to plug the PSU1 into one outlet, and plug my monster cable power strip into the other outlet, then connect my computer, turntables, ect into the monster cable?

I just want to make sure the outlet wouldn't damage anything.



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I only ever tried one power conditioner which was supposed to be "the bees knees". It didn't do anything for me. I spent the equivalent on more music - which did.

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I'm not going to get a power conditioner now, but I do want to upgrade my wall socket.
Since those outlets I'm looking into have both 15 & 20 amps, I have no experience with an out let that has two types of amps.
I just want to make sure when I plug my devices into them, they are going to be ok.
 
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Found here:  http://www.homedepot.com/c/electrical_outlets_factors_to_consider_when_selecting_electrical_outlets_HT_BG_EL

"20-amp outlets – If you are installing a receptacle where you will have high-current devices, such as small appliances in a kitchen, 20-amp receptacles are essential. Use 20-amp outlets only on 20-amp circuits, which can be identified by looking at your circuit breakers. Twenty-amp outlets have a horizontal slot connected to one of the vertical slots in the outlet."

The cable size in your wall back to the circuit breaker should be 12 to 10 gauge and the circuit breaker should be rated at 20A.

20 amp outlets will take the conventional US two pin and 3 pin plugs, and also high powered products having a 20 amp plug.

The "fatter" 12 to 10 gauge cable provides a lower impedance path for the line supply to the outlets, but for high frequency noise (which is the big culprit) the impedance may as well be the same as 14 gauge. At high frequency, impedance simply doesn't obey the rules.

That's where the filtering of the power supply and that inside the product's DC input comes into action to polish-off high frequency noise.

That is also a possible reason why I don't hear a difference with mains conditioners.
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