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Michell gyro SE which phono stage?

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    Posted: 17 Nov 2013 at 6:58pm
Hi again all, first of all, I'm very new to vinyl, CD was the big thing by the time I had enough money to choose my Hi Fi products. I'm in the market for a turntable, should have the funds for the Hi Fi show in Bath. I was looking at the Michell Gyro SE, admittedly for looks as well as sound. This is where I'm stuck, I don't have the time to go through extended sessions trying every available combination of phono stage, arm and cartridge. I like a very lean sound, high on detail (I'm all Cyrus at the moment), my music tastes are 60's-70's rock plus a lot of old punk stuff.
I love my GS Headphone amp that I built and therefore wanted to build the DAK Genera kit, would it have to aim higher than this for my chosen turntable? Any advice on arm/cartridge would be appreciated too.

Thanks, Mick.
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Hi Mick.

For many years I ran a GyroSE with a Tecnoarm and a Goldring 1042. Great performance! I sold it because I needed a TT with automatic cueing, not because of any shortcoming.

You could also consider the Ortofon 2M range, or maybe a Nagaoka. Everyone will have their favourites!

But the Gyro is a classic in both looks and performance.
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Thank's Bob, I have just been looking at prices, I may have to go with the 303 arm with an Ortofon cartridge. I have pushed the boat out going for the Gyro SE, at least it will give me something to aim for next year.........onwards and upwards. eh!
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Originally posted by mickmack926 mickmack926 wrote:


I love my GS Headphone amp that I built and therefore wanted to build the DAK Genera kit, would it have to aim higher than this for my chosen turntable? Any advice on arm/cartridge would be appreciated too.


Hi Mick,
Rather than the Tecnoarm you might also consider the Audiomods arm, available in several versions even a diy kit, all based on the same Rega 25x arms. I use one of these with a Genera and an Ortofon VMS30II cartridge - a very capable comination. The new Ortofons would I'm sure be a step up from this.
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Seconding Ian's advice I have heard good things about the Audiomods arm and it seems great value. I have an Origin Live Zephyr and would recommend that from my personal experience.
 
The Genera is really good and fun to build for a capable hobbyist. I still use my DAK Genera with my P3-24.
 
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 Not sure I would call the Gyrodec the leanest sounding deck around, I think the Rega and Clearaudio decks are leaner, also the Clearaudio can be purchased as packages. However what they don't have is the iconic looks of the Gyrodec, indeed the Gyrodec is the only piece of my HiFi that has passed  the SWMBO test and I have been forbidden to change my Gyrodec or even get the Orbe Platter upgrade.

There is historically a slight bloom to the Gyrodec that can be removed by the Armboard Isolation kit, this maybe part of the standard build now but should be considered if you buy. Also if you do get the Gyrodec with a Rega based arm then you should consider the VTF adjuster and finger locking nut for easy VTF adjustment. Get it setup by your dealer!

When considering arms then you should check out Origin Live bottom end arms as well as the Rega, there are some who who think that the higher end arms are a good match, however they are a bit fiddly and that Audiomods upgrade looks a serious bit of kit.

I have not heard the low end 2M but the 2M Black is certainly not warm and cuddly, needs careful setup though and the VTF adjuster helps.


FYI I own a Gyrodec SE as follows


Gyrodec SE

Armboard Isolation Kit.

VTF adjuster and Finger nut.

Push on Clamp kit.

HR Kit (Tightens bass)

Origin Live Conquer MKII (Drunken 2nd Hand Ebay purchase)

Ortofon 2M Black

Revelation 2M Black 






Edited by ServerBaboon - 17 Nov 2013 at 10:51pm
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I use Gyro Dec + Tecnoarm + Goldring 1042 into ERA Gold.
 
Sounds good to my ears. Not lean but clean and detailed and no 'bloom' :-)
 
Adrian.
 
PS does have Michell's outboard power supply ;-)


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