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HD greedsters - it ain't rock'n'roll old chum

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Originally posted by Graham Slee Graham Slee wrote:

I've now found HIGHRESAUDIO in Germany and since they took my money I expect to be able to download using their HRA downloader the album I bought. This time it's a 96/24: "Legend - The Definitive Remasters" from Bob Marley and The Wailers.

The moral of this story seems to be if you've an age to spare and are willing to go through "hell", you can obtain a few "rock/pop" albums, but there ain't much to choose from unless you're into classical, folk or jazz mainly from obscure artists.
Thanks for the info on this site, Graham. As I'm into classical and obscure jazz (Big smile) this is a good site for me if not my bank balance. . . . LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote morris_minor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 May 2012 at 9:51am
Originally posted by Graham Slee Graham Slee wrote:


Therefore, for 96kHz to be the standard (or even 192kHz and higher), the studio really has to record to analogue and then digitize. If it doesn't, then anything 96kHz is up sampled.
I don't think this is right. PCM audio is regularly recorded up to 192, and the DXD format for SACD is 352.8kHz.

Mind you my source for this is wikipedia Wink


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 May 2012 at 10:58am

Quote Therefore, for 96kHz to be the standard (or even 192kHz and higher), the studio really has to record to analogue

I am not an industry insider, but I would assume that it would be perfectly feasible (and probably the case for "in studio" recording) that the master would be made directly on a DAW (Digital Audio Workstation) - this is the way I have seen musicians doing it in home studios and I am aware of some quite awesome mix/clock/IO interface cards for DAW use from people like RME and Lynx.

In fact, with the amount of processing power and storage available on modern up-spec laptops and some of the very portable multichannel, all singing, all dancing interfaces available, like the Motu 828 http://www.motu.com/products/motuaudio/828mk3 it would be quite feasible to record from a multiple mic setup on location at whatever sample rate your interface ADC can handle.

Rechecking, the ADAT machines (8 channel multitrack digital recorders) apparently had 20 bit and 44.1 or 48 KHz sample rates in their later incarnations.  DAT tape being only 16 bit.

With all that, there are artists and studios who either prefer or "feature" the use of analogue recording equipment, often using valve amped microphones and recorders.  Water Lily acoustics being one such.  T de P of EAR has done (and perhaps still does) a lot of refurbishment of valve recording equipment for specialist studios from what I recall reading.

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What I meant was to record to tape it would need to be analogue and digitized afterwards...

or, DAT would limit it to 48kHz.

I believe you to be correct in that more bits and higher sampling frequencies are available using a DAW.

I'm trying to get to the bones of what is feasible from a customer's perspective and what constraints the customer is under. This is why I'm putting myself in the customer's position...

What I'm finding is that right now there are problems in obtaining HD/hi-res music to download, not for classical or obscure jazz fans, but for the rock and pop genres which many a million customer finds more palatable.

Now if there are hundreds of reels of high quality analogue master tape, then it can be digitized to say 96/24, and vast numbers of 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's etc music could be made available for computer audio.

The only problem I can see with all this is the download time. Audiophiles could all become divorcees (or stay single) by using up all their annual leave sitting in front of a computer waiting for each track to download at a rate of 30 minutes to 5 hours per track...Ouch
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What speed is your broadband?

What you get today isn't possibly what you wil get next year, if you have a Virgin fibre link then you probably have a 30MB download speed.

I have downloaded a couple of items (still nothing to play natively on though) and they weren't too bad.

There does seem to be issues in getting Hi Res stuff, have you tried Linn and Naim?

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I agree with SB. I buy classical 96/24 and 192/24 FLACs from Linn and it's fairly quick (5 mins per album) downloading on Virgin fibrelink as long as I'm not using iPlayer HD or Sky Anytime+ and my neighbours aren't either.
 
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Originally posted by ServerBaboon ServerBaboon wrote:

...have you tried Linn and Naim?


Not my "cup of tea".

I have managed to download:

Steely Dan: Gaucho
Bob Marley... : Legend ...
Kate Bush: 50 Words for Snow (still downloading)
Peter Gabriel: Half Blood
Peter Gabriel: Scratch My Back

I think I need assistance with the DVD. What do I open it with?


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