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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Graham Slee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Jul 2014 at 9:44pm
Hi Tim, bypassing can work, but can easily be "overcooked". The combinations of series inductances can unite to create spikes. It's not too bad however, because series impedance is usually high enough on electrolytics to dampen spikes. To calculate a suitable value the impedance of the circuit the capacitor is working to must be found. I think on the negative feedback the grounding resistor is 330 Ohms? (I'm going on memory), so the series DC blocking capacitor sees this as its load.

To get an in your face result the bypass capacitor would need to have a turnover frequency with that resistance of around 1kHz - 3kHz. A more subtle rendition would require a turnover frequency in the region of 8kHz - 12kHz. If you can do the math with C=1/2pi*f*R then you won't need any further help. If not I can suggest some values.


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Thank you for your replies Jon and Graham. I think you're right actually Jon, it would be wise to leave things unmodified until the turntable returns else I risk having no familiar reference to work from.
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When my turntable does return, and the time comes to maybe do a few modifications to my Genera, I've been considering rehousing it in a slightly more roomy case - don't get me wrong, the case that comes with the kit is lovely, but it'd be nice to have something a bit bigger (and heavier) so my interconnects don't pull it around. Now, pardon my ignorance - but does the case need to be metal? Is it providing shielding or grounding, is there any reason why the case couldn't be plastic or even wooden - in fact could there be any benefits? I'm thinking of DNM and their plastic amp cases and the claimed benefits...
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I'd read this and then consider such claimed benefits: http://www.compliance-club.com/archive/keitharmstrong/design_techniques4.html

One proponent of zero shielding argues that shielding reflects the magnetic field back at the conductors, thus causing feedback (negative and positive) which interferes with the signal...

In which case a printed circuit board is absolutely useless, and signal traces should be separated by massive distances... just picture your amp being the size of your room!

Also, you would not be allowed in it whilst wearing a metal zip fly, watch, or any other metallic article...

Neither would your speakers, turntable, any other signal source... or even any mains wiring!

All of these items could reflect back the magnetic field surrounding one of many signal conductors which make up a circuit.

But none of this is necessary because the magnetic fields are so tiny, and this is why sub-miniature items such as smartphones, tablet computers, sat-navs etc work, even with all their conductors so tightly bunched together.

The metal case being a conductor (the ground conductor - or even a "floating" one) is a considerable distance away by comparison.

Further info on this can be found here: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/wirfor.html and by plugging in real world values like 0.00001 in the "I1" box and 0.0005 in the "r" box you should get the result which is an extremely weak magnetic field of 4e-9. Then, by all means, have a go with part two.

Let me tell you a short story... when I was aged 10 at school, we had to do a presentation on something we were interested in. I'd not checked my facts and told it the way I imagined it to be... it was met with howls of derisive laughter from the boffins of my class. Some "grown ups" in hi-fi seem to be doing exactly what I did at the age of 10. I learnt a valuable lesson that day: not to look like a complete tit!

"Materials technology in amplifiers: The DNM Series 3 Pre-Amplifier designed in 1984 saw the first use of construction materials that do not interact with the amplifier's magnetic fields. DNM are still the only ones doing this over 20 years later! "

I wonder why? Wink


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