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Garrard 401 and GS Accession MC
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    Posted: 31 Oct 2022 at 7:12pm
I’m about to take delivery of a Garrard 401 with a SME3009 mk2 I already have my accession mc, which atm I’m using a Denon 301 mk2 mc cartridge on my current Technics SL1100 turntable. I’ve been told that the SME is not a good fit for the Denon.? I’m really keen to use the Accession with the Garrard. So my question is how do I move forward? Change the SME? Or a different mc cartridge or can the Accession be tweaked?

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Did they give a reason for it not being a good fit? I have not owned that arm/cart combo but looking at the cartridge compliance a 3009 series Ii would probably be fine but the lower mass arm of the series ii improved might raise the resonant frequency a bit too high. Which version of the series ii is it please?
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Hi Jon,

Thanks for your reply, all I know about the arm is that its a series 2 with the detached headshell, sorry not SME experienced Smile
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The series ii improved has a small pulley for the antiskate thread, instead of a small wire loop.
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Originally posted by Fatmangolf Fatmangolf wrote:

The series ii improved has a small pulley for the antiskate thread, instead of a small wire loop.
I have an early one here, which just has the wire loop.
It was bought brand new by the gentleman who passed it on to me.
Mine is a fixed headshell version, and it works best with carts at the higher end of the compliance range.

The removable headshell version is better suited to medium compliance carts, but with a touch of mass loading at the headshell end play nice with lower compliance carts.
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Thanks Chris. If memory serves the early version has an effective mass of 12.5g whereas the improved is 6.5g. Your points about the headshell and mass sound to me 
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My SME has the loop and wire with the small weight for antiskate, which I presume is Mk2 non improved?
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