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Discrete Component Headphone Amplifier?

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    Posted: 26 Aug 2011 at 10:40am
Read the following page:

http://www.headphoneamplifiersusb.com/novoheadphoneamplifier.htm

...it seems geared to experts in amplifier technology rather than the average listener. Can you help translate some of the jargon?

It begins by saying "Award winning discrete component headphone amplifier for £212.75 (ex VAT). Unbelievable? But amazingly true!" To me it's not unbelievable or amazing, because I don't understand it! What is a 'discrete component headphone amplifier'? What other kinds are there? Why is it better?

"The Novo has a wonderfully open sound, and paints low level detail with a fine brush" What does 'open sound' mean? What should I listen for that might distinguish the Novo from my NAD in terms of 'openness'? Does 'paints low level detail with a fine brush' mean 'you can distinguish quieter instruments in the orchestra'?

Why should a discrete component headphone amp should be in the highest echelons of price?

I tried Googling but am now more confused. PCMag: "Discrete components are widely used in amplifiers and other electronic products that use large amounts of current. On a circuit board, they are intermingled with the chips, and there is hardly any electronic product that does not have at least one or two discrete resistors or capacitors."

So all headphone amplifiers are discrete to some extent? Are you saying you don't use chips *at all*, so all the components are discrete resistors, capacitors, and so on. If so, what is so wonderful about that? Coming from a computing background I tend to think chips are marvellous, and resistors and capacitors are the primeval things I soldered together way back when during boring physics labs.

I may be totally missing the point here, you may be using "discrete" in a totally different sense. Or I'm missing the wonder of discrete components, through a bad education or personal dislike of solder:)

S0 - Graham - could you provide an explanation of what you mean by "discrete headphone amplifier", and why you think they are so wonderful, that a BBC news reader could understand. Thanks.

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Originally posted by mal4mac mal4mac wrote:


S0 - Graham - could you provide an explanation of what you mean by "discrete headphone amplifier", and why you think they are so wonderful, that a BBC news reader could understand. Thanks.

- Mal


If you are a BBC news reader then I'm going to have severe problems... have you seen BBC news recently? Wink

Mind you I don't think you would make it as a BBC news reader because you were unable to read that it was What Hi-Fi who said that and not me! Do you often go around mis-quoting people?

There are ICs (integrated circuits) where the design work has been done by somebody else and it's all down to how the IC is applied (application engineering).

And there are discrete transistors where the designer does the lot himself.

It all depends on the designer's capabilities.

In HI-FI they use "discrete" to suggest superiority and grab more money. I don't suggest I'm superior - I'm just a common northener (from above Watford Gap). Therefore I thought I'd make our cheapest headphone amp "discrete". A sort of turning HI-FI snobbishness on it's head. I'm like that you see (being from the industrial north...)

However, if a designer can do the lot himself then he can also "get inside" an IC. And that's what I've done with my IC based "Ultra-Linear" products.

Not that I'm a show off - I just think we can do a better job for the money than the others, and if we can, then we should do it.

(perhaps I need some help with my marketing writing skills? It seems people just don't get what I'm about)


Edited by Graham Slee - 26 Aug 2011 at 3:43pm
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Apologies for not being more explicit. But, in my defence, I didn't attribute the quote explicitly to you. I hoped to imply it was just 'on the page'. Failed dismally. "To err is human...", and all that.

I don't think much marketing gumpf is needed, you just need to dumb down the selling page so the average person can understand it at first reading, and really sell the Novo's 'quality at a low price' attributes. The first sentence could become "Award winning Hi-Fi headphone amplifier at a Low-Fi price..."
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Oooer! Hi-Fi and Low-Fi in the same sentence Wink
 
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We appeal to many people and not only to "the average Richer Sounds customer" (to snatch a quote from our private discussion).

Although this is the first complaint about our product page regarding this product I will take your comments on board and see if it is possible to rewrite it.

I will just add that 70% of our sales are world-wide exports where English is not often the first language of our customers. I am sure they would prefer us to explain ourselves in their languages but alas, we don't have the ability to do so or the money to pay a team of interpreters to do so.

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I was going to volunteer to do the write up in spanish, "gratis" of course. But then I realized that as the end user I would have looked up your site, thus I should be the one to learn your language. Otherwise I could use one of the many translators available on line although they are mediocre at best. Cheers.
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Originally posted by Graham Slee Graham Slee wrote:

I am sure they would prefer us to explain ourselves in their languages but alas, we don't have the ability to do so or the money to pay a team of interpreters to do so.

Graham

I won't charge you a lot Graham and I think as you know Chinese is used by the greatest majority of people on this planet and recently they happened to think they are strong Dead that they are finding ways to dispose of their money earned in ways you should or shouldn't know in details (beware of consequences as money is still in many places the almightiest weapon of all Cry!)

I'm serious as I want some extra money to buy a new Chord interconnect for my solo, and I can guarantee you I'm more than competent to translate your stuff into one of the oldest language on this planet which characters are originally pictures Big smile! If you are still in doubt, I'm very willing to send you my related CV Tongue on request!

Graham, you are doing good to mankind by selling machines which play musics, so buying one from you is indeed a very decent way of spending money for some peoples Clap! So, isn't it a win-win-win situation for all of us LOLLOLLOL ???


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