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USB DAC - A Digital Voyager?

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    Posted: 05 Jun 2012 at 2:17am
The times I've been asked "when are you doing a USB Voyager"?

Well, for an analogue veteran this computer audio takes some learning, but I managed to learn enough to make this device below...



It's obviously a prototype and it took me 12 hours to put it together.

The last bit was interfacing the Windows volume control to those two tact switches you can see on the right hand side of the stripboard. These operate this...



They don't automatically bring the control up on screen, but we all found it interesting to watch it move up and down as you press the buttons, so you may wish to open your volume control to see it move...Wink

And yes, this prototype is shown connected to a pair of AKG K701's...so does it drive them well? You bet! Powered from the USB bus at 5 Volts, with the USB DAC chip taking nearly 60mA, there's only 40mA of juice left from the 100mA available, so it's not a head banger, but it's plenty loud enough for our eclectic tastes here. The volume control is down the width of the slider knob to be comfortable with the K701's playing Hell Freezes Over by the Eagles in FLAC. Playing Kate Bush's 50 Words For Snow in WAV (the 96/24 download), it needed an extra notch, but it's still not up full. It's easy to tell Kate's voice from her son's choir boy voice, demonstrating it's good tonality.

Switching to a pair of Grado SR80's the volume doesn't change all that much, and the results aren't that far off those obtained with the K701.

It's never going to be a Solo headphone amp in miniature, but you'll hear most of our hallmarks of sound quality and 3 dimensionality sound-staging. It's just the thing for those traveling with a (fully charged) laptop etc.

It is also useful to obtain an analogue line-output, with the volume control being used to set the required level.

But that's not all! I couldn't squeeze it on this little piece of strip-board but the finished product will also feature a S/PDIF coaxial output!

This is not a boastful specification product - it does 48/16, but my bet is you won't find an analogue output quite like this on a more highly digitally specified product.

Pictured with it is a case we quite like. It shouldn't be much of a struggle to reduce the PCB size to fit.

UPDATE: Just trying it with the HD250II, simply because they're so revealing and unforgiving. At 300 Ohms impedance you wouldn't expect much volume but whipped up full on the volume up tact button, it's loud enough for me. It will no doubt be too loud for Miguel who listens at low levels but the good news is he can easily turn it down with the other tact button. Playing Jon and Vangelis Short Stories album, "The Road" is almost the same as I would expect off the vinyl cut, and comparatively speaking, the same sort of level as I'd listen on speakers. However, a low power device such as a USB powered headphone amp is best used with lower impedance and reasonably sensitive headphones. Not forgetting it's other use as a line-out from USB... and S/PDIF!


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So this is driven by USB power with no battery?
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In 12 hours Graham, you have designed and built a USB DAC with hi-fi headphone amp and USB/SPDIF convertor. That is impressive on more than one level.  Thumbs Up
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"So this is driven by USB power with no battery?"

Yes.

"In 12 hours Graham, you have designed and built a USB DAC with hi-fi headphone amp and USB/SPDIF convertor."

Not quite managed to finalise the S/PDIF, but thinking I should use an isolating transformer with a simple resistive split to it as it comes off the chip at TTL/Cmos level.

I must admit that I'd been thinking how to do it the previous day, but when I sat down to start it a few preconceptions changed, and I started over on the analogue stage. A considerable amount of time was spent simulating the -18dB/octave analogue filter which is built around the single op-amp stage. It's the same op-amp as used in the Voyager.

The USB standard and the way it's implemented, and the way a designer has to comply with it, does make it very difficult to do high fidelity. For a start there is only 5V. There's only 100mA, and the start up surge of the device cannot exceed 50 micro coulombs. If it exceeds all this it's not USB compliant. The digital side consumes 60mA so you're left with 40mA - that's 20mA per channel. The 50uC surge makes it impossible to use more than 10 micro farad decoupling, where a Solo uses nearly 4,000 micro farads of storage. So the designer doesn't really stand a chance of beating the computer's own built-in headphone jack. Think about this when reading those incredible claims for some USB headphone music streamers. As it is, I need to research deeper into how to get the energy storage up without infringing USB - because those who do, put a strain on the computer - your computer.
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Many USB-powered external hard disk boxes have a second USB plug connected in parallel with the first, but drawing power only (no data). Perhaps this could be an option?

Or how about an internal battery, and then use USB power for charging only? USB power wall-warts are ubiquitous now - many mobile phones come with one - as are laptops which leave a USB port powered even when the laptop is "off".
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What if you left the headamp out and made it into a USB ADC/LPF and S/PDIF convertor? That would presumably outperform most built in soundcards and would give a very good 48/16.
 
Points taken about the current restrictions and limits on the internal PSU design. 10uF is not much! I can see discrete badger's thinking on the battery makes sense, presumably that could power the headamp so the USB only powered the ADC/LPF and S/PDIF?
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ServerBaboon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jun 2012 at 3:48pm
Is there anyway of subverting the usb hub specifications which allow for 500 ma ( 100 each for four devices ) ?
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