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Mal, I am basing this on my experiences with the Cambridge Audio DAC Magic and 840C which are not "warm." The 8200CD is less bright and more detailed now than after the first few hours.

Edited by Fatmangolf - 09 Sep 2011 at 9:23pm

Double blind tests are the best defence against spending too much money!

I read What HiFi & Gramophone at the library and online - plus other online magazines, and forums like this. That's zero cost!

Edited by mal4mac - 10 Sep 2011 at 2:53pm

Continuing on this off-topic thread "all amps are the same", an article I never read, but appearing to be available online from the public library, and I have no reason to doubt mal4mac, those believing it are in my opinion being lied to.

I think it a shame that businesses like magazines need to publish such lies to make money!

I also think it shameful that there is so much confusion in hi-fi for people like mal4mac - I'm sure he's not alone.

I have to ask 'why such lies'? The Jehovah's Witnesses called yesterday (as they do) and left me a leaflet. It gave their explanation for such lies: "the whole world is lying in his power" is what it said. Who's power? The leaflet went on to explain that it's Satan's. It also explained that the word Satan means 'adversary of the truth'. In this case I have to agree with the Jehovah's Witnesses!

I'm a fighter for the truth. I can't stand telling lies myself, and I can't stand being lied to. I just had three months of being lied to by multiple tradesman involved in home improvement to my bungalow. I had much the same last year having the new workshop built - I'm sick of lies!

Why would anyone find need to lie?

The experience I had with some (not all but most) of the home improvement tradesmen tells me exactly why!

It is because they lack knowledge, or understanding or skill.

Now I will tie that in with the great confusion in hi-fi. Isn't it marvelous I have thought, that there are so many analogue audio geniuses over recent years when for well over 20 years nothing has been spent by government or universities on courses to educate people to anywhere approaching the standards required?

How therefore can it be that there is a profusion of analogue audio (hi-fi) equipment all being claimed to be the bees knees?

I know it isn't being made in this country (the UK). And that gives you the clue.

It is being churned out by the container load in the far east! It is nondescript. If you have money they will put your name on it. They will style it for you. And there you have it. It is otherwise known as the bandwagon!

Therefore you do not need any qualifications, knowhow or skills apart from being able to lie.

And I suppose if all these pattern parts are masquerading under numerous names then they're all going to sound the same? They're bound to if they're all the same!

And all you need to be able to sell them in a world desperate for money is a great massive discount structure.... something in the region of 70% is being offered to dealers, and it can be simply because it costs virtually nowt! (nowt is Yorkshire for nothing)

So what's an amenable HiFi shop going to do for you?

And what use is a press who are bombarded with tonnes of clones each with its individual Bling Bling?

(I found a definition for Bling on the web: "Any shiny thing which distracts morons")