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Alternative that's easy and good for the PSU1

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    Posted: 26 Sep 2011 at 12:02pm
I won't force anyone to believe in anything, something I can hear doesn't mean that you can (and vice versa), and something I feel good doesn't mean that you feel the same. I just want to show an alternative setup for the PSU1 that IMO deserve very much a try, and it won't cost you much to make it (under HK$150 that's around 11 pounds)!



The plug below the PSU1 is a 13A to figure-8 adaptor as below:
 

and the brown wire coming out of the PSU1 is a Japan made Denko power cord called the "Power Digital" which is tin foil shielded.

The difference is particularly prominent when going through demanding passage such as a soprano singing loud in high pitch (smoother and more realistic and airy than before), overall dynamic is better too!

Will share more as the setup is still in burnt-in stage (50 hours).

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Fatmangolf Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Sep 2011 at 9:38pm
Thanks lapkwan, that's a neat solution that shortens the mains cable. I must admit that I was admiring your cow when I should have been focussing on the udder mains cable!


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mrarroyo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Sep 2011 at 12:05am
I almost missed it! Pretty ingenious and cheap!
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Hello everyone,Big smile

My DIY set-up really improves with time, particularly in terms of dynamic, everything are more realistic and string instruments sound more airy and natural than before. I also want to emphasis the contribution of the Tacima 6 way mains conditioner as seen with the PSU1 plugged into it on the photograph above, I've compared using it with plugging the PSU1 directly to the wall, once you've tried the Tacima you never want to do without it again, it's like wiping a dusty window with spring water, and with no hurt to dynamic as someone would tell you about other mains conditioner,  I know about the Tacima through WHF testing, it's really a great bargain with such performance! Clap

I think I sincerely want to share good stuffs and useful experience with other users on this forum, I care about nothing but just truth that I believe in, I know nothing technical but I'm more than confident with my ears distinguishing between good and bad sound, last but not least, music matter to me most and if you could find something useful with my sharing it'll be my greatest honour and satisfaction. Big smile    

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tg [RIP] Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Oct 2011 at 7:23am

Your power board and adapter plug look handy items for those using UK style power plugs.

Good to hear you are happy with your tweaks.

A fellow here who spent a deal on power conditioning and improved mains supply etc in his home reported rather interesting findings:

He lives in a fairly heavily industrial area, but most of the industry is only during business hours (not 24/7 factories) - after all his expenditure on additional heavy mains wiring, mains regenerators etc. he felt that he had gained little from the expenditure - until he happened to be home during normal business hours, then he reported that all his power filtration made a significant difference and was obviously doing what was expected of it.  He had not previously noticed as significant a difference since he was not normally using his equipment during periods of heavy local power use.

I have found it to seem beneficial to separate SMPS power adaptors out onto their own power boards not connected to my mains filters and run my audio linear supplies behind the mains filtration.

It may only be my imagination but it seems to have cleaned things up a deal.

Thank you for sharing your findings.


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Originally posted by tg tg wrote:

I have found it to seem beneficial to separate SMPS power adaptors out onto their own power boards not connected to my mains filters and run my audio linear supplies behind the mains filtration.
 
Hello tg, Tongue
 
Thanks for your response, but I don't quite understand the quoted part above, particularly what's SMPS and linear audio supplies, may be there are something I haven't encountered before and I wish you would have time to clarify so that I might benefit from it. Big smile
 
I totally agree with your case on the influence of industrial activities on mains supply around it, I believe it really happens so it is always beneficial to have means of guarding against it, although I've mention the Tacima I don't believe it is an ultimate solution to the problem. Besides setting up my PSU1 in a new way, I also follow advice (I forgot the source) by wrapping a power cord with tin foil (Isn't it the thing for baking potatoes in oven which is sold in roll in supermarket?), but I think it's pyschological more than really practically effective! What I mean is, there should be a lot of other experiences on this matter, and if a lot more people would share their useful experiences it would be something very interesting  to know, at least for me!Embarrassed
 
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Lapkwan,

your PSU1 is a "linear" power supply, it uses a transformer (heavy); a Switch Mode Power Supply (SMPS) is lightweight and uses high speed electronic switching rather than a transformer to do its work of voltage change. (think that is right - you can check for yourself).

They are the common plugpack/wall wart type of supply provided with switches, routers etc.

Due to their greater energy efficiency, they are becoming mandatory worldwide (sadly for audio) and are provided with many items of new equipment.  They are the type of power supply in computers and one was provided with one of my DAC's.  They are also the type of PSU provided as a cheaper option with certain GSP products.  WRT those, Graham has spent a lot of time in previous years and there has been extensive testing of the results, such that products using them do not suffer detrimental effects to SQ from the forward carriage of artifacts of their mode of operation.  This was the subject of lengthy R & D work @ GSP for a number of years following the mandating of their use in the EEC and other countries in order to maintain the standards of sound quality expected by GSP customers.

They are also the type of power supply provided with items such as the Logitech Squeezebox and many other things, they are, to my knowledge, used inside newer DVD players etc.

Amongst other aspects of their operation, they allow passage of a miniscule "residual current" - which can sometimes be felt on the surface of equipment so powered.  Experience has shown it to be beneficial to ground this residual current for better sound quality from equipment so powered.

I am thinking specifically here of the Novo HPA and also the Solo HPA when powered by the "green" PSU (SMPS).

I have a number of audio devices (external soundcards, DAC etc. etc.) and noticing some grittiness to the sound of the system at one stage, I re-arranged my power boards and plugged all the linear supplies into my power conditioner and all the SMPS into a different board not connected to the power conditioner.  This seemed to improve the overall sound quality and I now make it a practise not to connect SMPS to the same outlets/plugboards as other audio equipment not having such supplies.  Perhaps I also re-arranged interconnects and resolved the situation by that, perhaps the SMPS feed some noise back into the mains, I am not certain either way, try it where or if applicable and see what you think.

Hope this clarifies the situation some.

regards,

Tony G


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