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kgilroy
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Topic: Acoustical Room TreatmentPosted: 13 Dec 2012 at 1:12pm |
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Wondering what people's thoughts and experiences are with acoustical room treatments? I have not yet gone down that path but after upgrades and tweaks to equipment it seems to be the logical next step.
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Graham Slee
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Posted: 13 Dec 2012 at 2:55pm |
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You'd need a 2 foot mirror and an assistant - a very patient assistant - to find where the reflection points are...
Looks like this enquiry and a recent email means I have to do a blog on the subject... Will newsletter it when done. Graham |
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That none should be able to park up and enjoy the view without a smartphone and the knowledge in how to use apps
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Fatmangolf
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Posted: 13 Dec 2012 at 9:09pm |
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Thanks K and Graham. There's probbaly a few of who'd find that newsletter really helpful.
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Jon
Open mind and ears whilst owning GSP Genera, Accession M, Accession MC, Elevator EXP, Solo ULDE, Proprius amps, Cusat50 cables, Lautus digital cable, Spatia cables and links, and a Majestic DAC. |
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JamesD
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Posted: 05 Jun 2013 at 1:10pm |
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Thought I'd give this a bump as I've finally moved house and my system is now in the living/dining room rather than a study. The new room is approximately 3 times the volume of the study with different wall construction and the sound I'm getting now is almost like I've got a different set of speakers... in some ways good, in other ways bad
![]() I'd be interested in knowing if anyone else has had such experiences from moving their gear to a new room or even a new house and what they've done to improve the sound. My experience is as follows: 1. The new room doesn't seem to suck out the lower end frequencies, or at least it seems to level things out to some degree. On the whole this is good. The result is that the volume control doesn't need to go as high to obtain useful bass/lower end. 2. My relatively powerful amp that I've been pretty happy with seems to need a certain volume level before the top end 'opens out' (can't think of a better word) and details in the music can be heard. Given that the volume control doesn't need to be turned up so much now means that I need to play music a bit louder than is ideal in some circumstances to prevent it sounding a little 'flat'. (Is that what the dreaded 'loudness' control was designed for???) 3. The old study, being small, did mean that I listened fairly near-field. I'm sure this improved imaging, though point 4. did mess this up a little. In the new living room I'm listening at a distance of about 9 or 10 feet away and up to this point I haven't managed to position the speakers so that they give a decent stereo image. (Though maybe I'm impatient here, given that I moved 4 days ago and am still unpacking boxes...) 4. The old study was in a stone built cottage in a converted room that had relatively thin wooden panelling to hide the stonework. Amusingly (or not) the panelling could be felt to vibrate in sympathy with the music at moderate volume levels... whilst this seemed to emphasise some mid-range frequencies it also made the music sound quite 'lively' and entertaining (!), though perhaps not too accurate... The new living room is typical modern build with plasterboard walls. My conclusions are that I need to play around with the position of the speakers (2-1/2 way floorstanders) and save up for the Proprius monoblocks, once I've sorted the kitchen, bathroom, living room, hallway, second bedroom.... hold on... maybe some of the house upgrades will have to wait . My experience with the monoblocks (when I had them on loan) was that they still sounded good at low volumes (good for point 2), had a decent low end (to make the most of the floorstanders) and would certainly improve stereo imaging.All this maybe of interest to fellow forum members, as I say if anyone has recommendations or has had similar experiences I'd be interested to hear.
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morris_minor
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Posted: 05 Jun 2013 at 3:09pm |
.I completely agree with your assessment of the Proprius amps. Stereo imaging and the depth/width of the soundstage was greatly improved in my system, and the bass response from my speakers finally met my expectations - even more so when I hooked in the Spatia speaker cable. Good luck with tuning your room.
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Bob
Majestic DAC/pre-amp Accession MC/Enigma, Accession MM, Reflex M, Elevator EXP, Era Gold V Solo ULDE, Novo, Lautus USB and digital, Libran balanced, CuSat50 2 x Proprius + Spatia/Spatia Links |
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JamesD
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Posted: 05 Jun 2013 at 6:31pm |
Thanks Bob. Fortunately WAF isn't an issue at the moment, though it is a living room rather than a dedicated listening room so to speak, so I don't want it to put off potential visitors. ![]() Now I've got the new living room I guess ideally I'd like to try the monoblocks out again to see whether they cure some of the "issues" but I feel that would be taking advantage of the loan service. Better get saving, if that's possible!
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Posted: 05 Jun 2013 at 8:01pm |
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Hello everybody I am quite new to this forum and this
topic interests me so I ask to be able to introduce myself (a bit rambling,
sorry) & I will eventually get to a relevant Graham Slee bit, I promise....
I had a Gram-Amp 2SE on trial from my local dealer for
a week last year pre-DEQX and rejected it because it sounded cold and hard
compared to what I had (not realising that this gear needs a Loooonng warm up
period !). Anyway two weeks ago I bought a used Reflex/PSU1 from Ebay and it is
starting to sound pretty special, better almost by the day as most of you say it
will and through my system - very, very good - I will not turn it off until I
inevitably send it off to Yorkshire to upgrade to the latest -M spec....oh dear, here I go again ! I am also arranging with Jon to demo some CuSat50 interconnects. (Better whisper that in case the wife hears….)
So, thank you for indulging me. I am
not saying that DEQX is the only solution to a poor room. However I have
learned that if you are prepared to put a ridiculous amount of effort into it ,
it really does correct the sound almost to perfection.
Anyone ever visiting Chester UK and interested to hear is more than welcome to PM me. You seem to be a well educated, honest speaking bunch and I respect the views I am reading so I’m always open to take further advice.…
(by the way, I will not be able to partake in all the techy, scientific stuff in this forum, fascinating as I find it. I just love music for music's sake, listen to it at every spare moment and my wonderful wife indulges me in that. So I can only comment on what I hear, not really why it sounds that way) |
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