Copyright © 1998
Cadman Enterprises Ltd
Welcome to the Graham Slee Audio Products Owners Forum ![]() Open to all owners plus those contemplating the purchase of a Graham Slee HiFi System Components audio product and wishing to use this forum's loaner program: join here (Rules on posting can be found here) This website along with trade marks Graham Slee and HiFi System Components are owned by Cadman Enterprises Ltd |
1st impressions Solo ULD trial |
Post Reply
|
Page <1234 5> |
| Author | |
Ash
Senior Member
Joined: 18 Mar 2013 Location: Dorset Status: Offline Points: 4360 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 17 Feb 2018 at 9:48am |
|
All of Graham's electronics are designed to be powered on 24/7/365 as he is from a broadcast background where this is a necessity. They reach optimum performance after several days or weeks apparently. Never had mine on constantly for longer than a week but that's my loss. PSU1 must be sat on hard floor rather than on carpet so there is no risk of it overheating over time.
Regarding Bitzie vs Bitzie+Solo, I suspect it depends on the drive needs of the headphone being used. My vintage Sennheisers were all very close in needs to Graham's reference HD250 hence why the Solo didn't really give them anything extra compared to just the Bitzie (it already satisfied their particular needs). Not sure if Solo would help to further linearise headphones that have a less even frequency response. |
|
|
We do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
|
|
![]() |
|
gbr2004uk
Senior Member
Joined: 23 Jul 2009 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 105 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 17 Feb 2018 at 1:14pm |
|
Thanks Mick. (I've been known to work at my pc in a lightning storm, but better sense has prevailed after a minute or two.) I guess I'd leave the PSU1 on all day, as with the desktop but turn the wall switch off at night, when the pc is shut down anyway. But it's good to know the machinery doesn't overheat.
I've been reading more about the problems with tube-amps, not the least being that 4 of them on a machine must get so darn' hot! Maybe OK in a (British) winter, not so good even in the (British) summer. all best Brian
|
|
|
Voyager 2009, Bitzie+Lautus cable 2013, Sennheiser HD700 & 650, Yamaha Clavinova
|
|
![]() |
|
gbr2004uk
Senior Member
Joined: 23 Jul 2009 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 105 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 17 Feb 2018 at 1:25pm |
|
That's helpful again, Ash, thanks. My arrangement is a work station with the pc, to the right another work station with printer, drawers for components etc, to the left a filing cabinet whose top is level with the pc desktop, and on the surface of the latter sits the PSU1, where it seems to be happy. (It's only about 3 inches from the router and I hope they don't get electronically entangled. I can't hear any fights or anything.)
The Bitzie remains fantastic and I couldn't now do without it. I'm still testing it with the Solo. Just got some Leonard Bernstein CD's which should give them a run for their money! https://tinyurl.com/y8hfz66h all best Brian |
|
|
Voyager 2009, Bitzie+Lautus cable 2013, Sennheiser HD700 & 650, Yamaha Clavinova
|
|
![]() |
|
tg [RIP]
Moderator Group
Joined: 19 Jan 2008 Location: Sydney Status: Offline Points: 1866 |
Post Options
Thanks(1)
Quote Reply
Posted: 18 Feb 2018 at 3:29am |
|
Just adding my $0.2 here Brian, you will not hear the best of the Solo (IMO) until it has been powered on for more than a day (same goes for the phono preamps IME).
So for best performance do not power down except perhaps on occasion of electrical storms. Like Mick my kit with 4 x PSU1 has not been turned off for years bar a couple of blackouts when the entire suburb was out. As for the comparisons, rather than driving yourself to distraction with quick swapping, just listen to the Solo output for whatever music you like for say 10 days, then switch back to the Bitzie direct and play some of the that music over again and see if there seems to be something missing. Edited by tg - 18 Feb 2018 at 3:36am |
|
|
Tony G
|
|
![]() |
|
gbr2004uk
Senior Member
Joined: 23 Jul 2009 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 105 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 18 Feb 2018 at 12:06pm |
Thanks tg. I had misunderstood the whole thing about continuous powering, thinking it only applied to new equipment (as with brand new headphones, lots of new musical instruments, "playing them in"). But you're emphasising (and I've now read this elsewhere too) that these amps should be "warm" all the time, however well played in they've become. This doesn't work with the Bitzie of course, unless you keep the computer on all night (as it is I set it to "sleep" when I'm not using it, but it's off and night, and re reconnects the Bitzie next morning. Unless there's some other way of doing it? Perhaps that split power cable of Graham's that someone mentioned the other day? Maybe that's worth thinking about if it keeps the Bitzie warm and up to the mark? Any views on that? Your suggestion about listening to the Solo for several days and then switching back sounds good to me. If there's a real good difference, it should be immediately obvious. All best Brian |
|
|
Voyager 2009, Bitzie+Lautus cable 2013, Sennheiser HD700 & 650, Yamaha Clavinova
|
|
![]() |
|
Fatmangolf
Moderator Group
Joined: 23 Dec 2009 Location: Middlesbrough Status: Offline Points: 9695 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 19 Feb 2018 at 7:21pm |
|
The Powerfire is half way down this page:
https://www.hifisystemcomponents.com/dacs-digital-audio/bitzie-usb-dac.html and uses a mains to USB adaptor (not included) to power the Bitzie which means it stays on when you PC/Mac/etc. turns off. £110 less member discount. There is a bundle price with the Btizie but you already have one I think. |
|
|
Jon
Open mind and ears whilst owning GSP Genera, Accession M, Accession MC, Elevator EXP, Solo ULDE, Proprius amps, Cusat50 cables, Lautus digital cable, Spatia cables and links, and a Majestic DAC. |
|
![]() |
|
gbr2004uk
Senior Member
Joined: 23 Jul 2009 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 105 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 19 Feb 2018 at 7:58pm |
Yes, I did see it, thanks. By the way, I've been reading up more stuff around the web, this business of tube amps producing even harmonics, and solid states producing odd harmonics, the former sounding better to most people, the latter, the reverse. However other people say that's only important when producing music, as from a guitar, and has no relevance to reproducing the music as from a computer (because on CDs etc, all the sound and propensity to distortion and the rest is taken care of by the original engineer). I'm wondering how Graham deals with this issue, because I also read that it's possible in the construction of solid state amps to deal with this issue of harmonics to minimise any unpleasant effects and enhance the good. I must say, I've never noticed any unwanted sort of distortion at all from the Bitzie -- it's such an excellent amp that always sounds great to me. Oh, in further response to your reply, Jon, I guess I could try the Powerfire on appro and see if it makes a difference, but I'll get back to you as and when I'm ready with that -- one thing at a time and I'm still in back-and-forth dialogue with the Solo DLE! all best Brian
|
|
|
Voyager 2009, Bitzie+Lautus cable 2013, Sennheiser HD700 & 650, Yamaha Clavinova
|
|
![]() |
|
Post Reply
|
Page <1234 5> |
|
Tweet
|
| Forum Jump | Forum Permissions ![]() You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot create polls in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum |