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P******t RPM 5 Upgrade

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    Posted: 19 Oct 2018 at 6:54am
Hi There,

Have been using a P******t RPM 5 for about 3 years now with an Ortofon 2M Blue cartridge but have been toying with the idea of upgrading. Not sure on the sonic benefits of such a move or  what I would need to spend to make any improvements if any. Perhaps members here can give some advice as to what I should be looking for or not?. Nothing wrong with the P******t but you know sometimes it's like a TV or car you just feel like a change!Wink.
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Any idea of the budget for this, Terry? And you want to keep to MM as you have an Accession?

Belt/idler/direct drive? Maybe secondhand? 

Keeping in line with the somewhat minimalist RPM5 style there's AVID's Ingenium - now with an OEM arm and cart I see as the Ingenium PNP. Both arm and cart could be usefully upgraded in the future as the TT is often seen with Jelco and SME arms. 

But the choice is very wide!


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Definitely would have to be MM and could go to £1500 or perhaps a bit more. Looking at the link in your suggestion looks very similar to the RPM so would not be one of my choices but not bothered whether its belt, Direct Drive etc. Would even consider secondhand for a good quality older model if the price was right.
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Your budget will bring plenty of very nice TTs in to play (no pun intended).
 
I suspect most forum users have quite polarised positions on DD/Belt/idler, in my experience (which is a lot less than some in the forum) DD/Belt do tend to have very different family sounds/characteristics to one another so in changing from one to another you will need to be happy with the change in characteristic suit your own ears, and whilst I have no experience of idler drives since the early/mid-1970s I suspect the same rule applies over a house sound.
 
Convenience, consistency and easy of set will likely favour DD, for other reasons you may choose belt....
 
Providing a suitable comparison in a home setting may not be easy (and don't think Graham has started a loan scheme for Turntables yet!) so you may have to rely on reliable recommendations if there is such a thing, dealer auditions, reviews etc.  If you can get hold of something to try at home vs your existing reference deck or even take yours to a good dealer may be another option though these may be difficult rather than impossible to find.
 
A good second hand TT should bring a lot more in to budget from the £2-3,000 new bracket although as with anything you will need to make sure you aren't buying a lemon.  My deck bought earlier this year is around 35 years old and performing very well but if going down this route please remember the availability of spares (motors, belts etc) as well as the ability to set it up properly to get the most out of it.
 
If bought via ebay and you decide it isn't for you, you should be able to move it on at little cost whereas new more be more of an issue.
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It sounds like you may be able to have some fun in the process....
 
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Got to be honest been eying up the Technics SL1010GR for some time and read a few reviews and all are extremely positive. Trying to think what cartridge to fit if I purchased one. Superfi are doing an offer of £100 pounds off if purchasing the turntable and cartridge together no matter what the cost of the cartridge is. May be worth considering.


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Sorry should have been SL1210GREmbarrassed.
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The 2M Red is a lot of cart for the money, as is it's higher spec stablemate the 2M Blue.
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