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Topic: Speaker feet
Posted By: Bonzo
Subject: Speaker feet
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 2:03pm
After recently taking some time to tinker with my system, clean all the cable contacts mains, interconnects and speakers which resulted in changing the banana plugs at speaker and amp from those made by a famous turntable manufacturing company, to a smaller type where the cable contacts are screw tightened and when plugged in you tighten a small handle which expands the contact and stops the plug from moving. Anyway improvement in sound chuffed with the result.
Where next was the thought which ended with the installation of a PSU 1, even more chuffed.
Lots of improvement for not a lot of cost mostly effort on my part, but this got me thinking about my speakers. They're on granite slabs (chopping boards), using the supplied spikes sitting in spike shoes. It's a carpeted room with suspended wooden floor, (Edwardian terrace). I've never really liked the granite but used them because this was the general advice on forums and the like, forget concrete slabs, screws through the carpet because the divorce would happen before they did.
My thoughts were could or would changing the spikes for adjustable furniture feet the type with round or triangular feet and do away with the granite slabs having the speakers stand onto the carpet affect the sound, has anyone tried this? 





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Posted By: Ash
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 2:45pm
I would acoustically isolate the speaker enclosure from a hard resting surface with foam or carpet. Spikes are for placing it on hard surfaces. I would put the box straight onto carpet to absorb as much vibration as possible.


Posted By: Bonzo
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 3:52pm
Ash, thanks for your thoughts, having followed some of your experimental posts,(headphones and speaker mock ups), I'm going to take your advice and give the adjustable feet a go. I'm sure herself will be impressed if the slabs disappear, brownie points all round.

If I can work out how, I'll post before and after pictures of the speakers in situ.


Posted By: Ash
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 5:13pm
What is your rationale for resting the speaker enclosures on the slabs? For appearance only?

With speakers, I like the direct sound to be dominant, so what radiates from the cone surface is what hits the ear (as much as possible). So like a headphone but with real binaural positioning, not emulated with DSP. The original sound is altered by enclosure acoustics and room acoustics and I do like to experiment with keep-it-simple approaches.

I really like how some DIY full-range drivers have been developed in the last few years and would love to see larger size metal coned single-suspension drivers with magnets of higher magnetic flux density (I can daydream). I can only imagine how pure the low bass could be from such a driver on a cleverly designed nearfield open baffle. Big smile


Posted By: Bonzo
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 6:06pm
The rationale, was purely that having a wooden floor the spikes go through the carpet and don't just rest on the floorboard but sink into them. Using the slabs was as close as I could get to simulating having a solid floor. I must admit that the thoughts on using something other than spikes has been with me for a long while, I started thinking about it when I changed from using spikes on the top plates of speaker stands and used a semi circular semi circular ball sold by one of the manufactures which improved the sound no end, with more body, depth and focus.
I've limited experience of full range drivers having only heard those demonstrated by one of the DIY kits (I believe someone documented building a set on this forum), but my first listening wasn't positive I'd gone to a show specifically to listen, but having said that, the following year I heard a definite improvement (modified or updated driver).
Sorry but me and metal drivers have not got on so I can't help on that one.
I've only ever built 2 sets of speakers both from the old DIY supplements from one of the magazine's on wada stand mount transmission line and funnily enough the other was an open baffle but it never sounded right to me (probably my rubbish construction), the stand mount was wonderfully rich and open. 
Sadly I read that the designer passed away last year I don't know why but a big loss to his family and hi-fi a real talent.






Posted By: Fatmangolf
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 6:45pm
I stopped using speaker spikes into my wooden floor as it would join in like a giant sound board. Like Ash I recommend isolation aka decoupling. It can be cheap materials or more sophisticated devices.



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Jon

Open mind and ears whilst owning GSP Genera, Accession M, Accession MC, Elevator EXP, Solo ULDE, Proprius amps, Cusat50 cables, Lautus digital cable, Spatia cables and links, and a Majestic DAC.


Posted By: Bonzo
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 7:10pm
Unfortunately despite my best efforts the floorboards are not level so I feel I need the feet to level the speakers, hopefully this will have the desired result, fingers crossed.


Posted By: SiMears
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 7:13pm
Hi
New to the forum but thought I would add my (limited) experience. My speakers came with the classic spikes but when IsoAccoustics released their Gaia feet to very positive reviews, I had to try for myself. When my local dealer sold their ex demos for a significant saving, I snapped them up. For me and my system they were a real improvement, particularily in the sound staging and imaging. As my floor is carpeted I used the dedicated 'cups' which have small spikes on them and are not big enough to damage the carpet.
Hope this is of some use
Simon


Posted By: Bonzo
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 7:20pm
Hi,
Thanks for the recommendation I'd never seen them before, had a look but they're beyond my budget, but the principal is exactly what I want. If the feet work then it's save up time.
Oh and welcome you'll like it here friendly and helpful place 😁😁


Posted By: lfc jon
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 7:56pm
Hi Simon and welcome.

Ash
 I was under the belief that spikes were for carpeted floors, As all the speaker stands I have had have come with them so it's interesting that you say they are for wooden floors, It's now making me think that I may have been going about it all wrong.
Bonzo you are not the only one to do this (slabs on the floor) I know a mate that does it and have read on other forums and in mag of others that also recommend it.


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Reflex M, Solo (both with PSU-1) CuSat50, Lautus, Spatia & Spatia links cables. Ortofon Bronze.


Posted By: SiMears
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 8:07pm
Thanks for the welcome everyone! I am by no means an expert (on anything audio!) but as I recall the Gaias seemed more for hard floors as they have a sort of rubber suction cup on the bottom. The additional cups with the spiked feet seemed more of an after thought for people with carpets. Seems to work well enough and as I mentioned, the results weren't subtle. IsoAccoustics website probably worth a look, as if I remember correctly, there is quite a lot of info on them and isolation in general.

Simon


Posted By: Ash
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 8:22pm
Sometimes things like spikes couple rather than decouple. Embedding the speaker enclosure into floorboards will transmit vibration and cause more resonances IMO. Spikes are intended to rest on top of high mass and high rigidity surfaces to provide minimum contact area for vibrations to pass through. I prefer to use low mass and sonically absorbent materials like foam and cardboard, and listen at a closer distance. Many speakers use the enclosure material resonance to raise the bass output but it causes more room reflections. I prefer to use inert material to create a continuation of the air seal of the driver but not add any sound colouration.


Posted By: Fatmangolf
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 8:57pm
I fitted Gaia III feet under my GX300 floorstanding speakers and recommend them highly. I have normal rather than deep pile carpets and the rubber feet seemed fine if that helps. You can adjust their heights or put spacers under some of the feet to level a speaker. Highly recommended by me, Simon, and lots of reviewers. I later fitted Iso-pucks under my stand mounted 22RH544's and they were very good too.





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Jon

Open mind and ears whilst owning GSP Genera, Accession M, Accession MC, Elevator EXP, Solo ULDE, Proprius amps, Cusat50 cables, Lautus digital cable, Spatia cables and links, and a Majestic DAC.


Posted By: Ash
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 9:38pm
There's no reason you couldn't use spikes on piled carpet but I don't think it would provide any advantage and would hinder moving heavy speakers on-the-fly when trying to optimise the imaging and sound balance. I would prefer to avoid spikes myself so as to not damage the resting surface. I like little scraps/sheets of foam/carpet and you can vary the thickness depending on your need.

Spikes into wood is not a good idea IMO. I would only use them on stone.


Posted By: Fatmangolf
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 10:01pm
Crudely put spikes into floorboards are like nailing your speaker to the floor. It feels more stable but rap your knuckles on the top of the cap and you'll hear the floor boom not just the damped top panel of the cabinet. IMO

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Jon

Open mind and ears whilst owning GSP Genera, Accession M, Accession MC, Elevator EXP, Solo ULDE, Proprius amps, Cusat50 cables, Lautus digital cable, Spatia cables and links, and a Majestic DAC.


Posted By: lfc jon
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 10:02pm
I may have to to see if I still have them as one of my speaker stands did come with what felt like metal disks but I remember dismissing them as they were said they were for protecting wooden floors. this is prompting me to think that the manufacture of said stands are saying what they think is best for their stands, and to be taken as advice only.

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Reflex M, Solo (both with PSU-1) CuSat50, Lautus, Spatia & Spatia links cables. Ortofon Bronze.


Posted By: Ash
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 10:35pm
Try things that are free or inexpensive first. You can make great sounding DIY speakers for under £500.


Posted By: CageyH
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2022 at 6:23pm
My speakers are on a raised wooden floor.
IsoPucks made a huge difference, effectively isolating the speakers from the floor.
I used the cheaper non-HiFi version under my speakers. My speakers fell into the weight they can handle, so it was a no brainier for me, especially as I don’t have threads in the bottom of me speakers to fit the bling versions.

Is there a difference? I don’t know..


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Kevin
European loan coordinator, based near Toulouse, France.
Funkified SL1200 Mk.II, BB3, Firebottle Kin , ADI-2 DAC FS, Modulus 686, PD-S703, Solo UL, Triangle Antal EZ


Posted By: lfc jon
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2022 at 7:42pm
I did find the disks and I put them under the  spikes and the stands with speakers were not stable on the carpet, I didn't do a sound test so I can't say anything about the sound quality but for me this defeats the object of putting the speaker on rigid stands. My stands are solid wood so there is only one way of adding weight and that is by putting something on the stands or speakers "that's not going to happen" I like the way my speakers and stands look. I was always told that if your speakers are not rigid it can effect the sound quality from the lost energy from the sound (not sure I'm saying that right) So I'm going to stick with the way I have them.

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Reflex M, Solo (both with PSU-1) CuSat50, Lautus, Spatia & Spatia links cables. Ortofon Bronze.


Posted By: Fatmangolf
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2022 at 7:56pm
Please give the disks a chance and have a listen Jon.

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Jon

Open mind and ears whilst owning GSP Genera, Accession M, Accession MC, Elevator EXP, Solo ULDE, Proprius amps, Cusat50 cables, Lautus digital cable, Spatia cables and links, and a Majestic DAC.


Posted By: lfc jon
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2022 at 8:11pm
Jon
When I say not stable on the carpet I mean I could see myself knocking them over, The stands are quite tall which doesn't help. For that reason I will keep them as they are, I don't wont to be replacing damaged speakers. But I could see if I can get bigger diameter disks that may help?


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Reflex M, Solo (both with PSU-1) CuSat50, Lautus, Spatia & Spatia links cables. Ortofon Bronze.


Posted By: CageyH
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2022 at 8:11pm
Originally posted by lfc jon lfc jon wrote:

I may have to to see if I still have them as one of my speaker stands did come with what felt like metal disks but I remember dismissing them as they were said they were for protecting wooden floors. this is prompting me to think that the manufacture of said stands are saying what they think is best for their stands, and to be taken as advice only.

How do your speakers fit to the stands?
I would be tempted to spike the stands into the floor, and get a box of IsoPuck Minis, assuming your speakers weigh about 9 to 10kg. I think you will find this improves the sound.




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Kevin
European loan coordinator, based near Toulouse, France.
Funkified SL1200 Mk.II, BB3, Firebottle Kin , ADI-2 DAC FS, Modulus 686, PD-S703, Solo UL, Triangle Antal EZ


Posted By: CageyH
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2022 at 8:13pm
Originally posted by lfc jon lfc jon wrote:

Jon
When I say not stable on the carpet I mean I could see myself knocking them over, The stands are quite tall which doesn't help. For that reason I will keep them as they are, I don't wont to be replacing damaged speakers. But I could see if I can get bigger diameter disks that may help?

I have used coins before, much cheaper than buying spike cups, especially if you use 2 pence pieces.
A set of 8 costs 16p.


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Kevin
European loan coordinator, based near Toulouse, France.
Funkified SL1200 Mk.II, BB3, Firebottle Kin , ADI-2 DAC FS, Modulus 686, PD-S703, Solo UL, Triangle Antal EZ


Posted By: lfc jon
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2022 at 8:43pm
Kevin
Isolation pads
I can't remember what they are made of (They are like rubber) they are on the top plate of the stands and I have the speakers on them, they did come with the stands. The use of coins is a good idea and cheap. I could try that out now but I only have four and I need eight  2 pence pieces.


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Reflex M, Solo (both with PSU-1) CuSat50, Lautus, Spatia & Spatia links cables. Ortofon Bronze.


Posted By: CageyH
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2022 at 9:03pm
Would you have room for IsoPuck Minis?

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Kevin
European loan coordinator, based near Toulouse, France.
Funkified SL1200 Mk.II, BB3, Firebottle Kin , ADI-2 DAC FS, Modulus 686, PD-S703, Solo UL, Triangle Antal EZ


Posted By: Fatmangolf
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2022 at 9:33pm
VG point Jon. I'm only suggesting a quick listening session to see if they help the sound. I've done something similar to check out an idea and gone back to the original setup whilst I source a more permanent solution. Hope that helps.

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Jon

Open mind and ears whilst owning GSP Genera, Accession M, Accession MC, Elevator EXP, Solo ULDE, Proprius amps, Cusat50 cables, Lautus digital cable, Spatia cables and links, and a Majestic DAC.


Posted By: lfc jon
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2022 at 10:08pm
Jon
 It's not going to cost anything to try the coin idea because I can spend them after. Nothing tried nothing gained.


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Reflex M, Solo (both with PSU-1) CuSat50, Lautus, Spatia & Spatia links cables. Ortofon Bronze.


Posted By: Bonzo
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2022 at 8:52pm
Well people, a final update, the adjustable feet arrived yesterday and were fitted, but even after making sure the speakers were positioned and leveled sadly they would move with the slightest pressure applied.
I did try applying a little weight to the top to see if that would help bed them into the carpet pile and left them till this afternoon.
Unfortunately no joy, still movement. The upshot is I'm back where I started, and whilst its disappointing it hasn't worked, I wasn't unhappy with the sound I have, just thought it might be an improvement if in nothing else how it looked. I've a few brownie points with herself for at least trying to improve the look.
Thanks for all the tips and thoughts on this idea, greatly appreciated.
Charles 😜😜😜


Posted By: lfc jon
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2022 at 7:30pm
I did try the disks under the speaker stand spikes got them from a DIY shop (I went in for picture hangers) I don't know what they were for but I thought they'll do the job and for only a few ££. I did punch a indention in them to stop the speaker stands from sliding about. After all this I found no audible difference, this maybe down to my age I don't know. But as I said nothing tried nothing gained.

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Reflex M, Solo (both with PSU-1) CuSat50, Lautus, Spatia & Spatia links cables. Ortofon Bronze.


Posted By: Aussie Mick
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2022 at 4:52am
I’m a +1 for the Isoacoustics GAIA. I’ve used them under standmounts and floorstanders to excellent benefit. With synthetic industrial type “carpet” they sat directly on that surface. In my new home we have carpet that’s too thick for that. I tried the Isoacoustics carpet discs and they were better, but a royal pain to move. Two bits of MDF cut to size is what they now sit on, but I’ll get something more attractive eventually. The broad flat surface does a better job than the carpet spikes. 

I’ve a friend who loved the result but not the cost, so he bought two ikea bamboo butcher blocks eight rubber washing machine vibration absorbers from the hardware shop. Terrific solution! Boards on his carpet, absorbers between that and his floorstanders. A very excellent and very cheap solution. 


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Posted By: lfc jon
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2022 at 7:31am
As most of you say they do make a difference I have been listening a bit more with and with out speaker feet. Some times I think I hear something then I don't on other music. I can't explain it but with music by Enya is where I'm hearing the difference for the better. This is making it frustrating as I don't know why. Spent my day off waiting for a delivery that didn't turn up and all I achieved was frustration and Pi--ed off with wasting a days holiday.

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Reflex M, Solo (both with PSU-1) CuSat50, Lautus, Spatia & Spatia links cables. Ortofon Bronze.



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