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Topic: HI-Fi Frustration?
Posted By: Graham Slee
Subject: HI-Fi Frustration?
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2008 at 1:09pm
I think most people get well and truly frustrated with hi-fi and I think these lyrics are very fitting with their frustration as well as many others in life today...

(I know the song fits many situations I have found myself in)

"At the top of the stairs, there's hundreds of people,
running around to all the doors.
They try to find, find themselves an audience;
their deductions need applause.

The rich man stands in front of me,
The poor man behind my back.
They believe they can control the game,
but the juggler holds another pack.

I need someone to believe in, someone to trust.
I need someone to believe in, someone to trust.

I'd rather trust a countryman than a townman,
You can judge by his eyes, take a look if you can,
He'll smile through his guard,
Survival trains hard.
I'd rather trust a man who works with his hands,
He looks at you once, you know he understands,
Don't need any shield,
When you're out in the field.

But down here,
I'm so alone with my fear,
With everything that I hear.
And every single door, that I've walked through
Brings me back here again,
I've got to find my own way.

The priest and the magician,
Singing all the chants that they have ever heard;
and they're all calling out my name,
Even academics, searching printed word.

My father to the left of me,
My mother to the right,
Like everyone else they're pointing
But nowhere feels quite right.

And I need someone to believe in, someone to trust.
I need someone to believe in, someone to trust.

I'd rather trust a man who doesn't shout what he's found,
There's no need to sell if you're homeward bound.
If I choose a side,
He won't take me for a ride.

Back inside
This chamber of so many doors;
I've nowhere, nowhere to hide.
I'd give you all of my dreams, if you'd help me,
Find a door
That doesn't lead me back again
- take me away."

Genesis: "Chamber of 32 Doors" from "The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway"

Got any more?


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Posted By: Charley Phogg
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2008 at 3:59am
Wow, kindred spirits Graham.


 
FRANK ZAPPA lyrics - I'm The Slime
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[backing vocals Tina Turner & The Ikettes]

I am gross and perverted
I'm obsessed 'n deranged
I have existed for years
But very little has changed
I'm the tool of the Government
And industry too
For I am destined to rule
And regulate you

I may be vile and pernicious
But you can't look away
I make you think I'm delicious
With the stuff that I say
I'm the best you can get
Have you guessed me yet?
I'm the slime oozin' out
From your TV set

You will obey me while I lead you
And eat the garbage that I feed you
Until the day that we don't need you
Don't go for help . . . no one will heed you
Your mind is totally controlled
It has been stuffed into my mold
And you will do as you are told
Until the rights to you are sold

That's right, folks . . .
Don't touch that dial

Well, I am the slime from your video
Oozin' along on your livin' room floor

I am the slime from your video
Can't stop the slime, people, lookit me go

I am the slime from your video
Oozin' along on your livin' room floor

I am the slime from your video
Can't stop the slime, people, lookit me go

Adapt audio for video, hell, Frank changes stuff all the time why not think of it to suit the topic Wink.


  If interested check out FZ Live From New York. Different versions exist, get the one with I'm the Slime and The Torture Never Stops. Sofa is on all of them and it is SWEET,along wiht Manx Needs Woman and Black Page... great stuff. Whoever said FZ can't play the geeetauir hasn't heard Frank.
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Posted By: Graham Slee
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2008 at 5:08am
Hi Chris,

Today I was lead to a miracle! A pocket headphone amp that "will also drive 8 Ohm speakers" and "You will hear an improvement in a high-quality headphone’s ability to resolve musical detail, express deep, tight bass and present a more natural stereo image". Fantastic! And it's only £40! At that price it must be a Chinese miracle, but no, wait a minute! It's made in the USA where the cost of living is high like here in the UK. Now that's just got to be a divine miracle?

And you know? People actually believe it! Whereas I know that the economics don't compute - there has to be a catch, but that's hidden.

And while I was looking at it I was playing this...

We'll be fighting in the street
With our children at our feet
And the morals that they worship will be gone
And the men who spurred us on
Sit in judgment of all wrong
They decide
and the shotgun sings the song

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again


The change it had to come
We knew it all along
We were liberated from the fold that's all
And the world looks just the same
And history ain't changed
'Cause the banners, they all flown in the last war


I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
No, no!


I'll move myself and my family aside
If we happen to be left half alive
I'll get all my papers and smile at the sky
Though I know that the hypnotized never lie
Do ya?

Yeah!


There's nothing in the street
Looks any different to me
And the slogans are replaced by-the-bye
And the parting on the left
Is now a parting on the right
And the beards have all grown longer overnight


I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
Don't get fooled again
No, no!

Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!


Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss

And I thought, thank goodness for the wisdom in music, and prayed for all those who'll hear that wisdom but never understand it.

(The Who, "Won't Get Fooled Again?")



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Posted By: Charley Phogg
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2008 at 5:50am

Dear Mr. Fantasy

Lyrics: Winwood, Capaldi, Wood
Music: Winwood, Capaldi, Wood

Dear Mr. Fantasy play us a tune
Something to make us all happy
Do anything, take us out of this gloom,
Sing a song, play guitar, make it snappy

You are the one who can make us all laugh
But doing that you break out in tears
Please don't be sad, if it was a straight life you had
We wouldn't have known you all these years


Posted By: Charley Phogg
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2008 at 6:27am


"......Today I was lead to a miracle! A pocket headphone amp that "will also drive 8 Ohm speakers" and "You will hear an improvement in a high-quality headphone’s ability to resolve musical detail, express deep, tight bass and present a more natural stereo image". Fantastic! And it's only £40! At that price it must be a Chinese miracle, but no, wait a minute! It's made in the USA where the cost of living is high like here in the UK. Now that's just got to be a divine miracle?

And you know? People actually believe it! Whereas I know that the economics don't compute - there has to be a catch, but that's hidden. "

 So are you saying that's a possiblity, or just another marketing ploy?


Posted By: Charley Phogg
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2008 at 7:16am
ROGER WATERS
Amused To Death

Doctor Doctor what is wrong with me
This supermarket life is getting long
What is the heart life of a colour TV
What is the shelf life of a teenage queen
Ooh western woman
Ooh western girl
News hound sniffs the air
When Jessica Hahn goes down
He latches on to that symbol
Of detachment
Attracted by the peeling away of feeling
The celebrity of the abused shell the belle
Ooh western woman
Ooh western girl
And the children of Melrose
Strut their stuff
Is absolute zero cold enough
And out in the valley warm and clean
The little ones sit by their TV screens
No thoughts to think
No tears to cry
All sucked dry
Down to the very last breath
Bartender what is wrong with me
Why I am so out of breath
The captain said excuse me ma'am
This species has amused itself to death
Amused itself to death
Amused itself to death
We watched the tragedy unfold
We did as we were told
We bought and sold
It was the greatest show on earth
But then it was over
We oohed and aahed
We drove our racing cars
We ate our last few jars of caviar
And somewhere out there in the stars
A keen-eyed look-out
Spied a flickering light
Our last hurrah
And when they found our shadows
Groups 'round the TV sets
They ran down every lead
They repeated every test
They checked out all the data in their lists
And then the alien anthropologists
Admitted they were still perplexed
But on eliminating every other reason
For our sad demise
They logged the only explanation left
This species has amused itself to death
No tears to cry
No feelings left
This species has amused itself to death
Amused itself to death



Embarrassed


Posted By: Graham Slee
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2008 at 10:03am
Originally posted by Charley Phogg Charley Phogg wrote:



"......Today I was lead to a miracle! A pocket headphone amp that "will also drive 8 Ohm speakers" and "You will hear an improvement in a high-quality headphone’s ability to resolve musical detail, express deep, tight bass and present a more natural stereo image". Fantastic! And it's only £40! At that price it must be a Chinese miracle, but no, wait a minute! It's made in the USA where the cost of living is high like here in the UK. Now that's just got to be a divine miracle?

And you know? People actually believe it! Whereas I know that the economics don't compute - there has to be a catch, but that's hidden. "

 So are you saying that's a possiblity, or just another marketing ploy?


You never know one way or another. And at that price it's worth the gamble? So what the heck - buy one!

And that's how temptation works - the age-old marketing ploy.

And you and I can do the same! Yes, even the old LM380 should do the trick (if it can be obtained for pence or cents). Or it could be one of those TDA chips? A series resistor will charge a rechargeable battery, and if you're dead careful you can find a batch of surplus wall-warts cheap! The case looks like Hammond's best seller and it'll be a lot cheaper in the States (it's made over the border in Canada), and all you need is a sticker or two from the downtown print shop.

And if it sounds pants, well it was only £40. People forgive at that sort of price, so their reputation will be left untarnished.

Conscience eh? If only I didn't have one!

Edit:-

Websites are ten-a-penny, dot coms get preference on Google, links from head-fi boost their position. Just need a high speed credit card processor like PayPal and plenty of units built and ready to ship.

Almost like "amused to death" lyrics...???


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Posted By: Charley Phogg
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2008 at 10:27am
LOL I was simply asking where you were coming from Graham. Shirley Wink I couldn't imagine you walking around with electrodes stuck in your chest. but as I read, you said you were listening to it.

  Conscience, I hate mine each and every day.


Posted By: Charley Phogg
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2008 at 10:40am
No Graham, it and everything else I posted in this thread was meant to express my thoughts on my opinion ....... I can't think what it is I'm trying to say, but you thought you were the Slime?
 
 You have it wrong if thats the case. I see you locked in your dungeon busting ass to put put the best product that you can. Call it language barrier, but I do agree with you, that it is you agqainst them, Them being big markert. Hopefully you know hwta I mean even though I can't think.


Posted By: Graham Slee
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2008 at 11:02am
You are fully understood already. The reply above was meant for all. A kind of side dig.

Language eh? Even in "perfect" English it can so easily be taken the wrong way without the facial expressions we use in normal conversation. Emoticons rarely fit the bill, and if they did, would they be understood? No, as you put above "kindred spirits", yes, amen.

Ambiguity in what I write makes what I say double edged, but I may not mean it that way. And I guess that's why I got banned from Rockgrotto???

I may have a hard skin but inside I believe, and I am told, there is a soft centre with a heart of "gold" (but not 24 carat!!!!) Wink

Edit: Come on members! I'm sure me and Charley Phogg aren't the only ones to understand this thread. What are the lyrics you think fit best?


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Posted By: Charley Phogg
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2008 at 11:20am
If there wasn't the heart of gold, you'd be one of them.


Posted By: Sol
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2008 at 11:38am
Originally posted by Graham Slee Graham Slee wrote:

Language eh? Even in "perfect" English it can so easily be taken the wrong way without the facial expressions we use in normal conversation.
 
How dare you call me ignorant Wink


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Non illigitimum carburundum!
Cuius testiculos habes, habeas cardia et cerebellum


Posted By: Darren/Audio Elevati
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2008 at 1:01pm
Hey, you're dissin' my customer's miracle US find!!  I steered him back from the dark side to a Voyager and I don't think he'll be looking back, certainly not in anger.
 
"So here I am once more
In the playground of the broken hearts
One more experience, one more entry
In a diary self-penned
 
Yet another emotional suicide
Overdosed on sentiment and price.
 
Too late to say I love you
Too late to restage the play
Abandoning the relics
In my playground of yesterday...
 
etc...
Marillion for anyone interested.


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Posted By: Charley Phogg
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2008 at 7:03pm
Here's one, but you really have to hear the music to appreciate it...... IMHO

Legion of Mary

I'll Take a Melody

I've seen the rain pouring down The sky was grey with a speck of blue
Peek through a hole in the clouds The sun was screaming, "Hey You!".

As you ramble through your sorrow Seems like everything come out wrong
I'm living in yesterday's tomorrows I know something's helping me along

I'll take a melody and see what I can do about it.
I'll take a simple C and G and feel brand now about it.

I understand why the old fisherman
sail along, sail along, sail along. sail along, sail along,
someday he'll be gone

I hear you talking about your troubles
Everybody's got their troubles too
You can make them burst like bubbles
If you know just what to do

You know I've been called a dreamer
Dreams that never come true
But I've been called so many things before
Tell you what I'm gonna do

I'll take a melody and see what I can do about it.
I'll take a simple C and G and feel brand now about it.

I understand why the old fisherman
sail along, sail along, sail along. sail along, sail along,
someday he'll be gone

I'll take a melody and see what I can do about it.
I'll take a simple C and G and feel brand now about it.

Shine on, keep on shining, shine on,
keep on shining, shine on, keep on shining,
Shine on, keep on shining, shine on,
keep on shining, shine on, keep on shining,
Shine on, keep on shining, shine on,
keep on shining, shine on, keep on shining,
Shine on, keep on shining, shine on,
keep on shining, shine on, keep on shining



Posted By: Charley Phogg
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2008 at 6:31am
Don't let Bush fool ya. Someome's gotta do it and no one else has the nad's to step up. Sure is a shame he has drug us down so low,and made a business out of a war.

Standing On the Moon
Words by Robert Hunter, Music by Jerry Garcia


Words by Robert Hunter; music by Jerry Garcia
Copyright Ice Nine Publishing; used by permission.

http://seds.lpl.arizona.edu/nineplanets/nineplanets/luna.html#p4 - Standing on the moon
I got no cobweb on my shoe
Standing on the http://seds.lpl.arizona.edu/nineplanets/nineplanets/luna.html - moon
I'm feeling so alone and blue
I see the Gulf of Mexico
As tiny as a tear
The coast of California
Must be somewhere over here - over here

Standing on the moon
I see the battle rage below
Standing on the moon
I see the soldiers come and go
There's a ftp://seds.lpl.arizona.edu/pub/images/apollo/as11/10075279.jpg - metal flag beside me
Someone planted long ago
Old Glory standing stiffly
Crimson, white and http://arts.ucsc.edu/GDEAD/AGDL/sotm.html#indigo - indigo - indigo

I see all of Southeast Asia
http://arts.ucsc.edu/GDEAD/AGDL/sotm.html#salvador - I can see El Salvador
I hear the cries of children
And the other songs of war
It's like a mighty melody
That rings down from the sky
Standing here upon the moon
I watch it all roll by - all roll by

Standing on the moon
With nothing else to do
A lovely view of heaven
But I'd rather be with you

Standing on the moon
I see a shadow on the sun
Standing on the moon
The stars go fading one by one
I hear a cry of victory
And another of defeat
http://arts.ucsc.edu/GDEAD/AGDL/sotm.html#lullaby - a scrap of age-old lullaby
Down some forgotten street

Standing on the moon
Where talk is cheap and vision true
Standing on the moon
http://arts.ucsc.edu/GDEAD/AGDL/sotm.html#rather - But I would rather be with you
Somewhere in San Francisco
On a back porch in July
Just looking up to heaven
At this http://arts.ucsc.edu/GDEAD/AGDL/sotm.html#crescent - crescent in the sky

Standing on the moon
With nothing left to do
A lovely view of heaven
But I'd rather be with you - be with you





Posted By: stuxter
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2008 at 10:43am
KING CRIMSON-INDISCIPLINE-DISCIPLINE
 
I do remember one thing.
It took hours and hours but..
By the time I was done with it
I was so involved
I didn't know what to think.
I carried it around with me for days and days..
Playing little games
Like not looking at it for a whole day
And then.. looking at it.
To see if I still liked it.
I did.

I repeat myself when under stress.
I repeat myself when under stress.
I repeat myself when under stress.
I repeat myself when under stress.
I repeat..
The more I look at it

The more I like it.
I do think it's good.
The fact is..
No matter how closely I study it

No matter how I take it apart

No matter how I break it down

It remains consistant.
It remains consistant.
It remains consistant.
It remains consistant.
It remains consistant.
I wish you were here to see it.

I like it.


Posted By: Charley Phogg
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2008 at 3:48pm
Originally posted by stuxter stuxter wrote:

KING CRIMSON-INDISCIPLINE-DISCIPLINE
 
I do remember one thing.
It took hours and hours but..
By the time I was done with it
I was so involved
I didn't know what to think.
I carried it around with me for days and days..
Playing little games
Like not looking at it for a whole day
And then.. looking at it.
To see if I still liked it.
I did.

I repeat myself when under stress.
I repeat myself when under stress.
I repeat myself when under stress.
I repeat myself when under stress.
I repeat..
The more I look at it

The more I like it.
I do think it's good.
The fact is..
No matter how closely I study it

No matter how I take it apart

No matter how I break it down

It remains consistant.
It remains consistant.
It remains consistant.
It remains consistant.
It remains consistant.
I wish you were here to see it.

I like it.


 ClapClapClap


Posted By: stuxter
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2008 at 4:06pm
hey fogg,, stop pinching my lyrics !   ;o)


Posted By: Charley Phogg
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2008 at 9:14pm
Originally posted by stuxter stuxter wrote:

hey fogg,, stop pinching my lyrics !   ;o)



Wink




Posted By: Charley Phogg
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2008 at 9:16pm
Originally posted by stuxter stuxter wrote:

hey fogg,, stop pinching my lyrics !   ;o)


 Wink

 Ps. didn't recieve your p,


Posted By: Graham Slee
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2008 at 9:04am
I'll make you a deal, like any other candidate
We'll pretend we're walking home 'cause your future's at stake
My set is amazing, it even smells like a street
There's a bar at the end where I can meet you and your
friend
Someone scrawled on the wall "I smell the blood of les tricoteuses"
Who wrote up scandals in other bars

I'm having so much fun with the poisonous people
Spreading rumours and lies and stories they made up
Some make you sing and some make you scream
One makes you wish that you'd never been seen
But there's a shop on the corner that's selling papier
mache
Making bullet-proof faces, Charlie Manson, Cassius Clay
If you want it, boys, get it here, thing

So you scream out of line
"I want you! I need you! Anyone out there? Any time?"
Tres butch little number whines "Hey dirty, I want you
When it's good, it's really good, and when it's bad I go to pieces"
If you want it, boys, get it here, thing

Well, on the street where you live I could not hold up my head
For I put all I have in another bed
On another floor, in the back of a car
In the cellar like a church with the door ajar
Well, I guess we've must be looking for a different kind
But we can't stop trying 'till we break up our minds
'Til the sun drips blood on the seedy young knights
Who press you on the ground while shaking in fright
I guess we could cruise down one more time
With you by my side, it should be fine
We'll buy some drugs and watch a band
Then jump in the river holding hands

Bowie "Candidate"

"And in hearing they shall not understand..."

Oh well, must PRESS on...


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Posted By: tg
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2008 at 11:08am
Time and the bell have buried the day,
The black cloud carries the sun away.
Will the sunflower turn to us, will the clematis
Stray down, bend to us; tendril and spray
Clutch and cling?

Chill
Fingers of yew be curled
Down on us? After the kingfisher's wing
Has answered light to light, and is silent, the light is still
At the still point of the turning world.

Words move, music moves
Only in time; but that which is only living
Can only die. Words, after speech, reach
Into the silence. Only by the form, the pattern,
Can words or music reach
The stillness, as a Chinese jar still
Moves perpetually in its stillness.
Not the stillness of the violin, while the note lasts,
Not that only, but the co-existence,
Or say that the end precedes the beginning,
And the end and the beginning were always there
Before the beginning and after the end.
And all is always now. Words strain,
Crack and sometimes break, under the burden,
Under the tension, slip, slide, perish,
Decay with imprecision, will not stay in place,
Will not stay still. Shrieking voices
Scolding, mocking, or merely chattering,
Always assail them. The Word in the desert
Is most attacked by voices of temptation,
The crying shadow in the funeral dance,
The loud lament of the disconsolate chimera.

The detail of the pattern is movement,
As in the figure of the ten stairs.
Desire itself is movement
Not in itself desirable;
Love is itself unmoving,
Only the cause and end of movement,
Timeless, and undesiring
Except in the aspect of time
Caught in the form of limitation
Between un-being and being.
Sudden in a shaft of sunlight
Even while the dust moves
There rises the hidden laughter
Of children in the foliage
Quick now, here, now, always—
Ridiculous the waste sad time
Stretching before and after.

"Burnt Norton" - T.S. Eliot

 full text http://www.tristan.icom43.net/quartets/norton.html



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