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Category: Turntable Audio
Forum Name: High Fidelity Turntable User
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Topic: MM cartridge recommendations
Posted By: ICL1P
Subject: MM cartridge recommendations
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2020 at 9:23pm
I’m looking for suggestions for an MM cartridge for my upcoming “new” turntable. The TT will be based on a Lenco L75, with a PTP replacing the original top plate, set in a birch ply and valchromat plinth. The tonearm will be a Rega RB301, though in the long run I fancy an Audiomods series 6.

I use an RB1000 tonearm with a Goldring G1042 cartridge on my Manticore Mantra.

Over to you!


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Ifor
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Reflex M, CuSat50, Majestic DAC, a Proprius pair.



Replies:
Posted By: CageyH
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2020 at 5:26am
AT VM95ML is surprisingly good for not a lot of money.

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Kevin

European loan coordinator


Posted By: RichW
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2020 at 7:36am
Depending on budget  - the Audio Note IQ series.



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Elevator, Accession M, Majestic/Enigma, Reflex M, CuSat & Lautus.


Posted By: sheepskinstu
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2020 at 3:47pm
Originally posted by CageyH CageyH wrote:

AT VM95ML is surprisingly good for not a lot of money.

I agree! I'm really enjoying this cartridge at the moment on my Technics 1200. Worth a look at that price.


Posted By: ICL1P
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2020 at 5:52pm
Thank you all so far. I remember that Andrew (Drewan) is also a fan of the AN IQs. I contacted Deco Audio for up to date prices today:

The prices are as follows: IQ2 cartridge £540, IQ3 cartridge £789.
The IQ1 and 1042 are very similar in performance (the IQ1 benefits from the better body primarily).

The AT VM95ML is hugely cheaper, but how does it compare?


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Ifor
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Reflex M, CuSat50, Majestic DAC, a Proprius pair.


Posted By: CageyH
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2020 at 7:03pm
I have no idea personally. I seem to remember a thread on here where a member (paitientot?) made a comparison between a 1042 and the 95, but I may be completely wrong.

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Kevin

European loan coordinator


Posted By: CageyH
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2020 at 7:06pm
https://www.hifisystemcomponents.com/forum/audio-technica-at-vm95ml-cartridge_topic4686.html - https://www.hifisystemcomponents.com/forum/audio-technica-at-vm95ml-cartridge_topic4686.html

There you are....


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Kevin

European loan coordinator


Posted By: patientot
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2020 at 1:55pm
Originally posted by CageyH CageyH wrote:

I have no idea personally. I seem to remember a thread on here where a member (paitientot?) made a comparison between a 1042 and the 95, but I may be completely wrong.

Yes, I owned both carts at the same time and eventually got rid of the 1042. I can't speak to the AN models that are based on the Goldring 1000 series because I haven't heard them, and AFAIK, they are a bit different in some respects (different cantilevers and diamonds at least). 


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Reflex M + PSU-1 used with AT VM95ML, Stanton 680mkII + Ogura, and Shure M35X cartridges.


Posted By: Drewan77
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2020 at 5:37am
Originally posted by ICL1P ICL1P wrote:

Thank you all so far. I remember that Andrew (Drewan) is also a fan of the AN IQs. I contacted Deco Audio for up to date prices today:
Indeed. The IQ3 remains my preferred cartridge & I use it most often with a 1042 stylus which is a great combination & much lower cost to replace, considering that I play vinyl a lot. (the AN3 stylus only has about 120 hours on it so far, after 4 years of use).

An 1Q1 or IQ2 with a 1042 would be my recommendation, considering you already have the stylus Ifor.

(I am also very happy with the AT 40ML stylus on my AT150ANV, so a VM540ML would be a nice sounding lower cost option)


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Older than I once was, younger than I'll be
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Andrew


Posted By: ICL1P
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2020 at 5:25pm
Thanks Andrew.

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Ifor
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Reflex M, CuSat50, Majestic DAC, a Proprius pair.


Posted By: ICL1P
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2020 at 9:35am
Originally posted by Drewan77 Drewan77 wrote:



An 1Q1 or IQ2 with a 1042 would be my recommendation, considering you already have the stylus Ifor.
It’s my understanding that the IQ cartridge is common for the 1, 2, and 3 and that it is only the stylus assemblies that are different. Have I got this right?


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Ifor
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Reflex M, CuSat50, Majestic DAC, a Proprius pair.


Posted By: CageyH
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2020 at 12:08pm
That is my understanding.

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Kevin

European loan coordinator


Posted By: ICL1P
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2020 at 1:48pm
Originally posted by CageyH CageyH wrote:

That is my understanding.
👍

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Ifor
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Reflex M, CuSat50, Majestic DAC, a Proprius pair.


Posted By: CageyH
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2020 at 1:53pm
The IQ3 has a the cantilever from the LO1 apparently.

I am just debating if it is worth getting an AT ART-9, or if I stick to a top end MM, or get something like a Music Maker?


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Kevin

European loan coordinator


Posted By: RichW
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2020 at 8:26am
The Music Maker is certainly worth considering. Very good particularly on acoustic music and vocals.
Good dynamic abilities too.
It can be quite fussy about vinyl condition and setup though, the IQs are easier to setup & track
better - at least in the arms I've used.



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Elevator, Accession M, Majestic/Enigma, Reflex M, CuSat & Lautus.


Posted By: ICL1P
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2020 at 11:41am
I'm currently leaning toward the IQ-1.  My thinking being that in due course the stylus could replace my current G1042 stylus and I could then replace the IQ-1 stylus with either and IQ-2 or 3 stylus.

I'm happy to steer clear of fussy setup.


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Ifor
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Reflex M, CuSat50, Majestic DAC, a Proprius pair.


Posted By: RichW
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2020 at 1:14pm
Ifor I originally bought an IQ1 & upgraded the stylus assembly to an IQ3 after a few months.
The IQ1 stylus is no longer being used - try it out if you wish & we could sort out a price if it fits the bill.
It's had no more than 150-200 hours use.




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Elevator, Accession M, Majestic/Enigma, Reflex M, CuSat & Lautus.


Posted By: ICL1P
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2020 at 7:37pm
Originally posted by RichW RichW wrote:

Ifor I originally bought an IQ1 & upgraded the stylus assembly to an IQ3 after a few months.
The IQ1 stylus is no longer being used - try it out if you wish & we could sort out a price if it fits the bill.
It's had no more than 150-200 hours use.


Thanks for the offer Richard, but it doesn’t really help with getting another cartridge for the new TT.

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Ifor
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Reflex M, CuSat50, Majestic DAC, a Proprius pair.


Posted By: RichW
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2020 at 8:33am
No problem. Starting with the IQ1 & upgrading the stylus to a 2 or 3 later is a very good plan.
These MMs are almost as good as you can get without hitting the law of diminishing returns with
£1000+ MCs.



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Elevator, Accession M, Majestic/Enigma, Reflex M, CuSat & Lautus.


Posted By: ICL1P
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2020 at 9:24am
Originally posted by RichW RichW wrote:

No problem. Starting with the IQ1 & upgrading the stylus to a 2 or 3 later is a very good plan.
These MMs are almost as good as you can get without hitting the law of diminishing returns with
£1000+ MCs.

Thumbs Up

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Ifor
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Reflex M, CuSat50, Majestic DAC, a Proprius pair.


Posted By: CageyH
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2020 at 5:53pm
Originally posted by RichW RichW wrote:

No problem. Starting with the IQ1 & upgrading the stylus to a 2 or 3 later is a very good plan.
These MMs are almost as good as you can get without hitting the law of diminishing returns with
£1000+ MCs.


So how much are they?
Struggling to find a price over here, and I was tempted to go for. €1k MC, but if people have already tread that path, then I am happy to take advice and benefit from experience.


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Kevin

European loan coordinator


Posted By: ICL1P
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2020 at 7:01pm
The prices are as follows, from Deco Audio:IQ1 cartridge £380, IQ2 cartridge £540, IQ3 cartridge £789.

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Ifor
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Reflex M, CuSat50, Majestic DAC, a Proprius pair.


Posted By: RichW
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2020 at 9:56am
They've gone up a lot in the last couple of years or so, the 3 by over £100.
They are very good cartridges though.

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Elevator, Accession M, Majestic/Enigma, Reflex M, CuSat & Lautus.



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