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Which Gram Amp?

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Topic: Which Gram Amp?
Posted By: naish
Subject: Which Gram Amp?
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2020 at 3:31pm
Hi, I am new here and have my first question.
 
I have a Dual 704 fully Original in mint condtion with Shure V15 typ III element.
 
What pre amo from Graham Slee suits best? I am doubting between the communicator and the SE.
With the PSU1 ofcourse.
 
Thanks!



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Posted By: Graham Slee
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2020 at 4:24pm
If what you're driving with the phono preamp - e.g. an integrated amplifier - has a line or aux input sensitivity of 250mV or better (smaller figure), then either will work. The Communicator load capacitance might suit the Shure V15 III better.

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Posted By: naish
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2020 at 5:46pm
Thanks for your anwser.

I have a Hegel H80 amplifier..
https://www.hegel.com/products/discontinued/h80 - https://www.hegel.com/products/discontinued/h80

So, the communicator is a good choice for my Shure!? If the sound is finally right than I upgrade the needle or buy a fancier turntable.
Until now I didn't gave analog a real chance with a good pre amp.


Posted By: patientot
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2020 at 8:55pm
I agree with the Communicator for the Shure V15 carts. Those need a little more capacitance than some newer cartridges. You can keep the Shure cart and upgrade the stylus on it when the time comes. Jico and others have upgrade styli for Shure cartridges.

I've never used or handled that particular Dual, but it looks nice. I might be inclined to tune it up a little rather than replace it with something new, depending on your budget for component upgrades. 


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SL-1200 MK7 (modified) + Reflex M + PSU-1 used with AT150-40ML, AT VM95ML, Stanton 680mkII + Ogura, and Shure M35X cartridges.


Posted By: Graham Slee
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2020 at 7:04am
Originally posted by naish naish wrote:


I have a Hegel H80 amplifier..
https://www.hegel.com/products/discontinued/h80 - https://www.hegel.com/products/discontinued/h80



The line/aux input sensitivities should be in the manual/handbook.


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Posted By: naish
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2020 at 11:18am
The sensitivity is 935 mV on the analogue inputs on H80.


Posted By: Graham Slee
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2020 at 1:51pm
Originally posted by naish naish wrote:

The sensitivity is 935 mV on the analogue inputs on H80.


That is really insensitive.

You'll need the SE to get close.


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Posted By: naish
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2020 at 5:16pm
Thanks for your anwser.

I pick up a SE at Simply Audio this thursday. It is in the same city as I live! Already talked to Dimitri by phone.

If you a suggestion for an other GS pre amp that suits the amp better, please let me know.


Posted By: Graham Slee
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2020 at 9:46pm
You'll like the SE after it's been powered up 72 hours


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Posted By: Cyreg
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2020 at 11:11pm
Dimitri at Simply Audio is a nice and helpful guy
I did buy my GramAmp 2 Communicator there and lateron he lend me a EraGoldV to tryout
I kept the GA2C (with PSU1 that I already possessed)
 


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TecnoDec/RB250/MP110>GramAmp2C/PSU1; Cyrus CD8SE; Cyrus FM7 > Exposure XXXV > Harbeth C7ES-3 '35th Anniversary'
cabling: IC 3x DNM V3; LScable Exposure DMF-two; Furu TP60 + MWaY and AH! powercords   


Posted By: Fatmangolf
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2020 at 9:30pm
When I had the UK loan collection I thought the GA2SE was very good value with the green SMPSU and even better with the PSU1, although that puts the cost up.



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Jon

Open mind and ears whilst owning GSP Genera, Accession M, Accession MC, Elevator EXP, Solo ULDE, Proprius amps, Cusat50 cables, Lautus digital cable, Spatia cables and links, and a Majestic DAC.


Posted By: TReepmeyer
Date Posted: 16 May 2020 at 7:00pm
I have much the same issue.  Running a Shure V15 III with a JICO hyperelliptical stylus on a refurbished Dual 1229.  Looking for a higher quality phono stage than on my preamp.  Looks like the GA2 Communicator is exactly right for me.  Took me a while to find GS and this forum.  Sure glad I did.




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