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96/24 verses 192/24 sound quality

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Topic: 96/24 verses 192/24 sound quality
Posted By: Smokeyjoec
Subject: 96/24 verses 192/24 sound quality
Date Posted: 09 May 2019 at 8:05pm
Hi, I tried to search but was unsuccessful in finding any information.  For the members who record their vinyl on computers, does it make sense to use 192/24 verses 96/24? Have any members compared, could you please provide your opinion.  Files sizes are quite bigger and I’m not sure of the benefits, if any?

Thanks again.

Joe



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Posted By: Lucabeer
Date Posted: 09 May 2019 at 8:10pm
96/24 is overkill.

192/24 is pure nonsense, and a waste of space. 

Nyquist's theorem states that you have to sample at twice the maximum frequency that you want to capture. So 96 Khz is already plenty. 88 Khz would be the sweet spot. 

And my ears seem to confirm that. 


Posted By: BackinBlack
Date Posted: 09 May 2019 at 8:33pm
Originally posted by Lucabeer Lucabeer wrote:

96/24 is overkill.

192/24 is pure nonsense, and a waste of space. 

Nyquist's theorem states that you have to sample at twice the maximum frequency that you want to capture. So 96 Khz is already plenty. 88 Khz would be the sweet spot. 

And my ears seem to confirm that. 

I would most certainly agree with 192/24 being quite unnecessary. 96 or 88 kHz is all that is required, but a well recorded and mastered 44.1kHz CD can sound excellent, particularly when decoded by a Majestic. Big smile

Ian


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Posted By: Lucabeer
Date Posted: 09 May 2019 at 8:49pm
44.1 is absolutely fine, when mastering is done correctly and (most important) filtering in the DAC is done correctly. 


Posted By: Graham Slee
Date Posted: 09 May 2019 at 9:03pm
16 bits is overkill because the dynamic range of vinyl is only 12 bits.


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Posted By: Smokeyjoec
Date Posted: 09 May 2019 at 9:19pm
Thanks everyone for your feedback. Smile

I’m actually on the same page as everyone.   I’m just still listening to ADC interfaces on the internet and will decide shortly.  I will probably use Audacity as the software on my MacBook Pro.



Posted By: tg [RIP]
Date Posted: 10 May 2019 at 2:56am
Quote I will probably use Audacity as the software on my MacBook Pro.

Before you commit to that path, I would strongly recommend that you at least try Vinylstudio https://www.alpinesoft.co.uk/VinylStudio/download_mac.aspx - https://www.alpinesoft.co.uk/VinylStudio/download_mac.aspx
As a specialised LP & Cassette digitising package, it offers very specific support for everything you will wish to do, such as waiting for needle down before starting recording, splitting tracks, looking up track names and album artwork, non-destructive noise and click removal etc.

As to bit depth and sample rate, I usually record @ 24/88.2 for subsequent down sampling to 16/44 Redbook.  The vast majority of my digital collection is ripped CD and it seems fine to continue that standard.  It also makes it easy to burn LP recordings to CDR.



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Posted By: Smokeyjoec
Date Posted: 10 May 2019 at 11:03am
Thanks for the advice on this software and bit rate used.  I will try out.  



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