Technics question
Printed From: Graham Slee Hifi System Components
Category: Turntable Audio
Forum Name: DJ and Professional Turntable User
Forum Description: Technical Q&A, hints and tips
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Topic: Technics question
Posted By: Old skool
Subject: Technics question
Date Posted: 07 May 2019 at 11:25am
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Hi folks I have pair of 1210s & I'd like to try changing cartridges from the existing Ortophon Nightclub S. I have an Ortophon 2M Black that I'd like to try but clearly I'd need a headshell. Anyone done this before? Where should I look for one? Thanks in advance. ------------- Is the pursuit High Fidelity a sign of mental illness?? I think so.... |
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Posted By: Lucabeer
Date Posted: 07 May 2019 at 12:42pm
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Since the original Technics part has now reached a prohibitive price, a good alternative I have found is this: https://www.thakker.eu/zubehoer/headshells-tonarme/thakker-hs-10-headshell/a-8298/ - https://www.thakker.eu/zubehoer/headshells-tonarme/thakker-hs-10-headshell/a-8298/ or https://www.thakker.eu/zubehoer/headshells-tonarme/thakker-hs-11-headshell/a-8299/ - https://www.thakker.eu/zubehoer/headshells-tonarme/thakker-hs-11-headshell/a-8299/ No need to overspend on a shell, and this one is the closest in size, style and weight to an original Technics. I use one on my 2M, with great results.
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Posted By: Old skool
Date Posted: 07 May 2019 at 12:45pm
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Nice one. Thanks dude 👍🏼
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Posted By: Lucabeer
Date Posted: 07 May 2019 at 12:50pm
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You will also need a Technics 52mm gauge for setting up the cartridge, if you don't already have it: https://www.thakker.eu/zubehoer/reibraeder/technics-ueberhanglehre-52mm-sfk0135-01/a-9427/ - https://www.thakker.eu/zubehoer/reibraeder/technics-ueberhanglehre-52mm-sfk0135-01/a-9427/
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Posted By: Old skool
Date Posted: 07 May 2019 at 12:52pm
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From Germany is it?
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Posted By: Lucabeer
Date Posted: 07 May 2019 at 12:54pm
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Yes, Germany. But he's also an Amazon seller, so it might be worth it to check on Amazon.co.uk: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Thakker-Headshell-HS-11-Silver-headshell/dp/B01B03FRYY/ref=sr_1_fkmrnull_2?keywords=thakker+headshell&qid=1557229997&s=gateway&sr=8-2-fkmrnull - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Thakker-Headshell-HS-11-Silver-headshell/dp/B01B03FRYY/ref=sr_1_fkmrnull_2?keywords=thakker+headshell&qid=1557229997&s=gateway&sr=8-2-fkmrnull https://www.amazon.co.uk/Thakker-Headshell-HS-10-Black/dp/B0090L9CV8/ref=sr_1_fkmrnull_1?keywords=thakker+headshell&qid=1557229997&s=gateway&sr=8-1-fkmrnull - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Thakker-Headshell-HS-10-Black/dp/B0090L9CV8/ref=sr_1_fkmrnull_1?keywords=thakker+headshell&qid=1557229997&s=gateway&sr=8-1-fkmrnull Same items, same shop... but maybe cheaper shipping! |
Posted By: Graham Slee
Date Posted: 07 May 2019 at 5:07pm
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You will need the rear of the arm screw-in counterweights to get it to balance out. ------------- That none should be able to buy or sell without a smartphone and the knowledge in how to use apps |
Posted By: Lucabeer
Date Posted: 07 May 2019 at 5:38pm
Not with the headshell that I suggested! The standard counterweight goes all to the back, but no need ot the additional counterweight (which IS needed with the much heavier shell that comes with the PnP version of the cartridge).
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Graham Slee wrote:Posted By: Graham Slee
Date Posted: 07 May 2019 at 5:43pm
Oh, that's why  ------------- That none should be able to buy or sell without a smartphone and the knowledge in how to use apps |
Posted By: Old skool
Date Posted: 08 May 2019 at 11:40am
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The what now? Will I need additional weights for the Technics arm? Are these readily available? Please forgive my silly questions guys. Thanks for all the replies, I realise I'm an ignoramus! ------------- Is the pursuit High Fidelity a sign of mental illness?? I think so.... |
Posted By: Old skool
Date Posted: 08 May 2019 at 11:42am
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Ah, just read previous posts. I'll work it out eventually.... ------------- Is the pursuit High Fidelity a sign of mental illness?? I think so.... |
Posted By: lfc jon
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2021 at 7:13pm
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What is it with this brand of turntable that everyone one seems to rave about. I have had this nagging thing in my head about getting one myself for a long time (and it just won't go away) I can remember them back in my old disco days (showing my age) when most DJs had them. this is why "I think" I wont one. ------------- Reflex M, Solo (both with PSU-1) CuSat50, Lautus, Spatia & Spatia links cables. Ortofon Bronze. |
Posted By: Graham Slee
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2021 at 7:36pm
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I always thought they must be substandard, but that was before I started to lose my arrogance  I eventually bought one of the SL1200 MkII's and realised how wrong I was. The arm can't be all that bad seeing it's (IMO) an Acos Lustre as originally fitted to the Rega Planar 3 (in the 70s), but the Technics has the removable headshell. The "motor board" is quite hefty and isn't easily upset by vibration. The drive doesn't cog, and is pretty smooth. The SL1200 MkII does good bass, if not a tad bright in upper midrange. It can also handle MCs such as the Hana EL quite well. It was originally meant as a hi-fi turntable, but was adopted by disco in the wickywahwah era. Prior to that, we used Garard SP25's. ------------- That none should be able to buy or sell without a smartphone and the knowledge in how to use apps |
Posted By: Fatmangolf
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2021 at 7:49pm
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It was Graham who encouraged me to listen to an SL1200 mkII and I bought one for £180. Great value, second only to the SL-7 that has taken its place. I went through the same thinking as LFC Jon, buying one made me realise what I had been ignoring from the Sl1210/II and direct drives generally. I have fitted 3 arms (including rewiring tte stock arm) on the 1210/II and all shone. ------------- Jon Open mind and ears whilst owning GSP Genera, Accession M, Accession MC, Elevator EXP, Solo ULDE, Proprius amps, Cusat50 cables, Lautus digital cable, Spatia cables and links, and a Majestic DAC. |
Posted By: lfc jon
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2021 at 8:30pm
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I will end up getting one I know I will. There's just a matter of funds at the moment. I have been buying a lot of music lately but this is not a bad thing or way of enjoying what you have. ------------- Reflex M, Solo (both with PSU-1) CuSat50, Lautus, Spatia & Spatia links cables. Ortofon Bronze. |
Posted By: Mikeh
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2021 at 8:47pm
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I got my Sl1200gr 'nearly new' earlier this year, knocking about £300 off the list price. We'll worth it, in my opinion. I had previously resurrected a R*** Planar 3 which I bought in the 90s, fitting new sub platter, motor,drive belt etc.etc just to get it sounding good and rotating steady. In the end I realised the amount spent on upgrades would be better used on a replacement. In comparison the Technics just works! It's built like a tank, ultra stable and gives great flexibility with the ease of changing cartridges. The only additional I've made is a change of turntable mat and obviously using Cusat 50 cables. As I tell my daughter, the deck see me out and will be part of her inheritance, along with all the GS gear! ------------- Mike Technics sl1210g with Victor U-2 Accession MM, Majestic + Proprius, Solo ULDE Cambridge Audio CXC CD player Lindemann Limetree Bridge streamer Harbeth P3ESR XD paired with 2x REL t5x |
Posted By: Old skool
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2021 at 9:01am
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I had been using a P3/Elys as my ‘HiFi’ deck for over a decade & had a pair of 1210 mk2’s in the dining room for parties. Music always sounded better on the 1210’s. I put it down to room acoustics. When I learned a bit more about the SL1200 Mk2 (that they were indeed a hifi deck) I swapped one with the Rega. Even with a DJ cart it sounded SO much better! I had to get some hifi carts on there. Started with a pair of K9’s then went up the AT range. I now have quite a selection. My favourites are the L*nn K18 with a Paratrace stylus & the new VM95 generator with upgraded RigB CNC’d metal body also with a Paratrace stylus. Had a lot of really good advice from The Audio Files chaps. Thems what makes the RigB bodies. My Dad was so impressed with the 1210 that he convinced me to part with one & he now has a few AT carts to play with. The cheap as chips RigB AT91 is a little cracker with the EXT stylus, & a VM540ML for best. I ended up buying one of the last Japanese 1200G’s in the UK (2years credit @ 0% from AV Online) & never looked back. ------------- Is the pursuit High Fidelity a sign of mental illness?? I think so.... |
Posted By: patientot
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2021 at 4:44pm
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The best thing about the 1200 is the ease of use and setup. Reliability is also spot-on. Buy the best one you can afford. After using one I don't really want to use anything else. Even if I won the lottery tomorrow, I would simply buy a higher level model rather than use anything else. ------------- SL-1200 MK7 (modified) + Reflex M + PSU-1 used with AT150-40ML, AT VM95ML, Stanton 680mkII + Ogura, and Shure M35X cartridges. |
Posted By: CageyH
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2021 at 6:04pm
Money no object, it has to be the SP10R/SL1000. Still happy with my SL1200 Mk2. I see no reason to change it. ------------- Kevin European loan coordinator, based near Toulouse, France. |