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Topic: Accessions volume control?
Posted By: Eric
Subject: Accessions volume control?
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2017 at 8:49pm
Is the volume control in the Accession active or passive?
In other words, is there any gain behind the volume control?



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Posted By: Graham Slee
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2017 at 7:39am
No gain but it is buffered. Technically it is active, with a gain of 1. Geek

(1 times something is still something...)


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Posted By: Eric
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2017 at 9:11am
I thought my preamp had a great sound, but then I tested to connect the Accession "direct" to my power amps. What happened?
The sound is amazing! How is this possible from this tiny little box?

The only thing I miss is the remote control.


Posted By: ICL1P
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2017 at 9:20am
Originally posted by Eric Eric wrote:

The only thing I miss is the remote control.

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Posted By: DaveG
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2017 at 4:08pm
Originally posted by Eric Eric wrote:

I thought my preamp had a great sound, but then I tested to connect the Accession "direct" to my power amps. What happened?
The sound is amazing! How is this possible from this tiny little box?

The only thing I miss is the remote control.


I had exactly the same experience (my integrated had the option to bypass the pre stage and just use the power amps  ... which got me thinking.

So I now use the fixed out into a Proprius pair. Stunning!


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Posted By: dsockel
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2017 at 4:56pm
Any reason NOT to have the volume maxed out if I am feeding an integrated amp?  

Thanks,
Dave 


Posted By: Fatmangolf
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2017 at 7:02pm
Only possible reason IMO would be a sensitive input on amp like an old tuner or tape in that could pverload. Otherwise full volume is fine.



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Posted By: Eric
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2017 at 7:22pm
Originally posted by dsockel dsockel wrote:

Any reason NOT to have the volume maxed out if I am feeding an integrated amp?  

Thanks,
Dave 


Why not use the fixed output?


Posted By: Fatmangolf
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2017 at 8:39pm
Good point Eric.


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Posted By: dsockel
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2017 at 7:13pm
I am using one set of outputs to do vinyl rips and one set to feed my integrated.  Sounds like I should use the Fixed Outputs to feed my integrated and a Max Volume setting on the Variable Outputs to feed my computer for the rips.

Correct?


Posted By: Chris Firth
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2017 at 8:39pm
Originally posted by dsockel dsockel wrote:

I am using one set of outputs to do vinyl rips and one set to feed my integrated.  Sounds like I should use the Fixed Outputs to feed my integrated and a Max Volume setting on the Variable Outputs to feed my computer for the rips.

Correct?


Max volume on your digitisations?
No!
The variable output is there precisely because it's too easy to drive the inputs on the ADC too hard, and cause clipping on the input.
Use the variable output to reduce output from the phono amp into the ADC.


Posted By: Fatmangolf
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2017 at 10:51pm
Seconding Chris' advice I recommend setting the Accession variable level to keep the peak levels you see on the computer at -10dB. The dynamic range left should be plenty for a very good signal to noise ratio when recording, avoiding any clipping of peaks in the music, and you then can normalise afterwards in your editing software.



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