Headphone options for a Novo?
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Topic: Headphone options for a Novo?
Posted By: miT
Subject: Headphone options for a Novo?
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2009 at 11:39pm
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Hi all.
I just ordered a Novo amp, so I finally join the audiophile headphone brigade!
 Now for the hard part: choosing a good set of headphones to compliment it.My set up is:
Oppo DV-983 SACD player (would a dedicated Marantz CD6002 sound much better?)
Novo
Cusat50
Grado SR80 (I love the upper clarity but hate the lack of comfort and bass)
Shure SE530
Westone 3 (in the post)
(the IEMs are for travelling only)
My music taste is literally everything (dance, pop, rock, soul...), but the Novo will be mainly for my chill out sessions with classical, jazz, OSTs and "vocal" artists (i.e. Ray LaMontagne, Nora Jones, Portishead...). I also do a lot of audio producing and editing as a hobby, although the Novo won't get used for this.
Due to the mix of my tastes and my hobby, I think it would be best to get a linear set that could take care of the harder stuff (dance, etc) as well as my producing? In full agreement with Graham's statement about the hifi world today (going on what they think the correct SQ is rather than audio engineers who know what it is), I tried to find some Sennheiser HD250iis. Nada! Graham, have you got any other suggestions? Anyone else as well...?
For me the quality only really matters for my "chill out" genres as listed above, and I mean REALLY matters! I want to feel the emotion behind every note the artist sings, behind every chord he plays. I want to feel like I have a front row seat at my own personal concert, to hear everything so crisp and refined that everytime I listen I forget to breathe...
  Sorry, I'm a BIG music fan, but you get the idea. What headphones out there that will work with the Novo and my kit but will help me to acheive this goal?
Budget wise, I'd say sub £200 for the "studio" set and sub Grado GS1000/Denon D7000 for the decent set? For the latter I'm not particularly bothered between open or closed, just the overall package...
I agree with the "demo first" idea but I don't know anywhere to start (I live in South-East London).
Everyone's help is greatly appreciated.
 T
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Posted By: mrarroyo
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2009 at 1:55am
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I do not care for the Grado GS1000, even though I am a Grado Fan. I love the Denon AH-D5000 and I can recomend it highly, great bass, separation, detail, and involvement. Good luck.
Edit: I forgot to indicate that if you want a Grado the RS-1, RS-2, or even the SR225 are in my opinion better sounding than the GS1000. FYI, the reason I do not care for the GS1000 is that it has lots of bass and highs but no mids. ------------- Miguel |
Posted By: miT
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2009 at 8:24am
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Excellent, thanks for the reply mrarroyo (Miguel?). I have to admit, I have noticed the D5000's becoming a favourite in the different communities. Well done Denon!
I do like Grado's but feel the lack of comfort a bit a bit hard to justify at the price, which is a real shame.
My current favourites are the Denon D5000s and Grado SR325is (obviously the comfort issue meaning I shouldn't go for those). But I know very little bit about Audio Technica, AKG, Ultrasone, Stax (and people said Grado's look odd)... And the Sennheiser HD650s are supposed to be great if you change the cable, but surely you shouldn't have to do any mods to a "top of the range" product to get it to sound great out of the box...?
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Posted By: Darren/Audio Elevati
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2009 at 9:16am
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miT - I think I recognise you!! We have spoken a couple of times in the last week - thanks for buying the Novo/Cusat50 combo from us. This is a great place for advice/feedback from people who are really into their headphone listening so I'm sure you'll be pointed in the right direction.
I'll PM you about maybe loaning you some Sennheiser 650s.
regards
Darren ------------- http://www.audioelevation.co.uk - Audio Elevation - taking your hi-fi to another level. |
Posted By: tg [RIP]
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2009 at 9:22am
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miT, normally I use either a "green" Solo or Yamamoto HA-02, my preferred headphone is the ATH-W1000 although I also own and use K701. When reviewing the Novo as part of the beta testing program, I recall noting with some surprise its ability to convey the emotion when using the AT's with it, I could not state categorically that it was better in that respect than the Solo, but it certainly seemed adept at raising the hackles on a number of tracks - IIRC Eva Cassidy singing "Over the rainbow" was one such. Might be worth a listen if you can - I changed the earpads to the leather ones from the W5000 and that was good from a comfort perspective. |
Posted By: miT
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2009 at 9:42pm
Yes Darren, it was me. I changed my mind (again  ) and settled for the Novo over the Solo. I decided I could live without the 2nd input... Also, thanks for the HD650 offer. When the burn in is complete, I shall definitely go for a demo.I got my Novo today (YAY!) and have started the 500hr burn in process (  ). As a side point, what is the best way to do it? CDs on repeat (I have heard the suggestion of bass-heavy music?), pink (or white) noise, or just plugged in? And how long for burning in the Cusat50?Thanks tg (freaky, that's my initials!). That is exactly the sort of experience I'm looking for! I was hoping that Graham would have added some suggestions by now...  And anyone else out there...? |
Posted By: mrarroyo
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2009 at 12:36am
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There are many school of thoughts on how to burn in a piece of gear. I use a radio as a source so as not to wear out the moving components on a cd-player. Then I always put a load (headphone) unto the headphone amp.
By the way I had my D5000 modded by MarkL plus a new set of custom bubinga wood cups. Here are a couple of pics.
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Posted By: jamescodway
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2009 at 2:24am
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stoneaudio.co.uk is still showing HD250 in stock at £166.
I was chatting with a friend tonight (having tried his Opera Consonance Cyber 30, tubes, 3.5w per channel... blasphemy I know but the power made it sound great... with AKG701 (sorry Graham), RS-1, HD650 & HD250 - & discussing the 'if I could only keep 1 can'. Whilst HD650 has come back into being a contender, HD250 just has the extension and honesty to handle most everything and its closed (!). Good luck. |
Posted By: miT
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2009 at 9:23am
Nice bedspread Miguel. Oh look, there's some Denons there...  What mods did you get done?
Thanks James. Unfortunately, they show stock but they have none. They're only the 6th company who've done that to me!
 I am currently waiting on a company from USA to get a delivery quote (not looking forward to Customs!). They claim to have stock, although they cancelled my order due to "international delivery costing too much"... Interesting as I had already paid for them, including the delivery!
I got to test the Novo for a bit last night, although not with the Cusat50s yet (waiting for them to be made). I may not have a lot of experience compared to most of you, but it is AMAZING! Even with my puny Grados the quality is great, although I think it highlights the deficiencies of the SR80s. It sounded like it wanted to seperate everything, but my bins were by far the limiting factor. Not bad considering it was with a £5, 5* cable...
I tried it with The Dark Night & Crouching Tiger OSTs, some Ray LaMontagne songs and some dance music. It excelled at everything. Graham, you are a genius!!
 I will be getting my Shures back today (cable repair) so I look forward to trying them out on it... Well, it will be a laugh at least.
T
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Posted By: Darren/Audio Elevati
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2009 at 12:55pm
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Glad you are liking the Novo - told you you would!
We lose a lot of "sales" because we don't pretend to have stock that we can deliver yesterday at bargain prices that are less than trade with a free widget etc... We try to go for good products (eg GS), be nice to folks when they call us up, give the best customer service we can in terms of delivery etc (against all odds sometimes when we are relying on distributors!) and generally look after our customers so they come back next time. We don't have that yacht on order doing it that way but at least we sleep well at night knowing we did the job right.
That concludes my rant on "other dealers". What is everyone else's experience of the retail buying experience? ------------- http://www.audioelevation.co.uk - Audio Elevation - taking your hi-fi to another level. |
Posted By: jamescodway
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2009 at 7:29pm
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T
glad you're enjoying the Novo . Your words take me back to my first experience with the Solo. Magic!
1 other thought on the HD250 if your US transaction doesn't come off... All the components are replaceable (!) so you could assemble your own... though not the cheapest route I *think* the capsules includes the housing (£142!!) http://www.sennheiserspares.com/index_files/Page1096.html - Capsules Headband (£21.75) http://www.sennheiserspares.com/index_files/Page944.html - Headband Cable Personally I'd go for HD650 cable http://www.sennheiserspares.com/index_files/Page738.html - Cable Earpads Hmmmm, this guy says he has the foam but not the earpads themselves. I did manage to get a pair from Harrowaudio.com only a few weeks ago. Suspect other suppliers may have them. Also, HD250 is very similiar to other older Senn models, e.g. Ovation, so the pads for another can may well work... may even be better if they're velour (tho' may lose the seal) http://www.sennheiserspares.com/index_files/Page592.html - Earpads Anyway... just in case this is helpful 
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Posted By: miT
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2009 at 8:20am
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The IEM test is complete and a complete joke! I was shocked at how bad the Shures where! I've heard that the highs are clipped on them, but there was near enough NONE of the top end. On the flip side with a little tweaking of the EQ, the Shures sound "great" and have upper frequencies when plugged in to an MP3 player.
Anyhoo, the USA HD250ii deal fell through because (yet again) the dealer realised they're discontinued so can't get any stock.
 So for monitoring cans, good for providing the user with a brutal listening experience (i.e. ideal for production, editing, etc) I'm now back to square one. Thanks for the idea James but I think that might end up being overkill, even for me.I saw that Graham had mentioned the Audio Technica ATH-A900s in another post... Are these the best option around for my requirements? And how do the HD25 or HD280 compare to the 250ii? I'm only listing Sennys because I'm not so familiar with the equivalents from other companies...
For my hifi listening, I have a shortlist of the ATH-W1000s or the D5000s (with a demo on the HD650s to see how they stack up). Due to the replies, I can only assume there are no other alternatives to add to the list of demos to try...?
Also, does anyone know if Graham is away? I really was hoping to get a reply from him, at least for the "HD250" options in case he has another, still available option...
T
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Posted By: jamescodway
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2009 at 8:31pm
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HD280 is nowhere near the same class & has coloured/recessed mid bass.
I'm a big fan of HD25 but its a different beast. I'm interested in A900 but apparently has a distinct sound flavour... Do you need Closed? If not, you could get HD600 at a decent price. James |
Posted By: mrarroyo
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2009 at 12:06am
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I prefer the sound of the HD600 over the HD650, I find the HD650 has way to much bass. In comparison I prefer the W1000, RS1, and the D5000 over the HD600. ------------- Miguel |
Posted By: miT
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2009 at 8:51am
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James - For my HD250 "replacement" option, I need an analytical and brutally accurate sound (to highlight all the impurities in recordings) because it is for monitoring and audio editing/production. I'm only stuck on the 250s because of how Graham described them as a professional, and that's the SQ I need for my hobby (as I've now decided to only use cans). I believe that closed cans are more for this sort of use (not that I'll have much background noise)? As they are just for my hobby, not for proper listening I think the HD600/650s won't give me what I need as they aren't aimed at production use. There is always the Technics RP-DH1200E-S...?
Miguel - I have a demo booked on the HD650 with Darren at Audio Elevations (once my Novo is fully burned in) to see how they stack up against my short list.
As a side point, do you think the D7000s are better than the 5s? Reviews say they're even more refined.
T
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Posted By: jamescodway
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2009 at 12:04am
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Tricky... this 'world' takes a while to get to grips with !! I'm 2 years in (a novice) and I just had a major kick up the backside not 5 days ago (shhhh... valve amp flirtation ;-)) . HD250 is unique to my ears. Where are you in London? James |
Posted By: mrarroyo
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2009 at 1:42am
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miT, no idea on the D7000 and in a way I do not want to know since I have the D5000 w/ the MarkL mods and a set of his version 4 Bubinga Cups. I really love the way my D5000 sounds w/ the improvements. The D7000 can be purchased from an on-line retailer for about $600 USD, a lot of money but they look lovely. ------------- Miguel |
Posted By: miT
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2009 at 9:12am
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James - I agree! I used to think I was a bit advanced, but in this headphone world (the better one) I'm a complete novice again.
I live in Crystal Palace, SE London but work in Camden (if that helps)...
Miguel - Thanks mate. That highlights an important point that too many people miss; find what sounds right to you (at any price). Once you've acheived that, you've finished your journey. My problem is I want to get to that level in one step so I "waste" minimal £££s and can then stay content, which is why I keep bugging guys so much.
I am currently in the process of arranging a demo on the D5000s, ATH-W1000s, and the HD650s, but I will have to go about 120 miles (which means a freezing cold bike ride or an expensive train journey); I know of nowhere nearer!
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Posted By: Graham Slee
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2009 at 7:04pm
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Got hold of a pair of K701's long enough to do a serious appraisal. These are supposed to be run in by now, maybe... (loaned off a friend) I got them to be able to do a real try out of the Solo SRG, but will shortly do the same with the Novo. I gave them the Slee burn-in process overnight... (clue: I like to be warm and cosy too!) What a difference! I can see why there are so many going ape about the K701 - probably the best stereo image I've heard yet! Bass last night was so tight it squeaked when it walked! Today it's getting there, but more than that, I think they may just bring back that emotional content that this old work hardened cynic hasn't had the time to be bothered hearing since the Era Gold 5. Yes! The equipment we make does that emotional thing - all of it! But this particular pair of K701's spoon-feed it like an elixir to the ailing Slee cranium (and I haven't been reading any reviewer prose by the way!) I hope this is not a Solo SRG-only experience. ------------- That none should be able to park up and enjoy the view without a smartphone and the knowledge in how to use apps |
Posted By: jamescodway
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2009 at 9:15pm
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T - we're a little off each other's normal track(s) but maybe we could work out some convenient/fun way to try some of my cans with your Novo? I have HD25/250/280/650, K701, DT770 (& more...) that may be relevant.
Harrow Audio are officially Senn, AT & Denon headphone stockists but they've been slow (!) at getting a demo D5000/A900 for me... They generally will carry HD600/650. Nice guy there called Richard but there's not much room in the shop to have a proper listen. Another place is Noteworthy Audio in Aylesbury - apparently right by the Train station ~1 hour from Marylebone. I haven't been there but spoken to them on the phone a few times - always friendly and relatively knowledgeable considering most hifi shops are clueless about cans. I think they sell Graham's stuff too, though its not on their site. Graham, didn't you write recently that you were less than impressed with the 701s? They blow a bit hot/cold with me but 3 weeks solid with Radio 2 did wake the bass up a bit. On a good day, they hit the spot (Solo serial no. 0906-05 + PSU1) esp. vox & female vox (Joni, Tracey Thorn, Lisa Gerrard, Elizabeth Fraser). P.S. does that serial number mean the 5th unit made in Sep '06? |
Posted By: Graham Slee
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2009 at 12:53am
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Yes, you guessed! Since 2007 we changed our serial numbers to modulo-seven  Now only John Cadman knows when stuff was made... The K701's have always sounded horrible to me until just last night I remembered how I got the HD250's to perform. A few hours of sweating it out above a hot radiator and the K701 seems to have nearly taken on proper studio monitoring status - credit where it's due! I will have to see how they sound on the Novo but so far I've been taken aback by the way they rock with the Solo SRG. To be honest I've said some naff things about the K701 but I'd only been able to loan a pair for a few hours at a time. This time I've got them for a week so I can do a real appraisal. Will give my opinions of them with the Novo shortly. ------------- That none should be able to park up and enjoy the view without a smartphone and the knowledge in how to use apps |
Posted By: miT
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2009 at 9:09am
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Thanks for that Graham. Good to hear your view. I know you've been really busy as always making your amazing prodicts but I appreciate your reply.
I have to admit the previous view of the AKGs did put me off a bit but, bar the HD800s, I think they are the best looking headphones out there IMO. I don't mind the look of wood 'phones, but I'm not a big fan of red wood. Obviously, looks mean nothing as when you're wearing them you won't notice anyway (unless you're really vain)!
This website may prove to be useful for all: http://www.burninwave.com/ - http://www.burninwave.com/ The audio files aren't too important but it has the voted for (by consumers) burn in times for most 'phones. The K701s are on the top 20 longest list at 439 hours (some Sony's are over 1000!). That could be why they sounded poor before...?
James - That sounds like a plan! After these recent posts I'm pretty tempted to go for the AKG's myself, especially as there is a deal ending soon on eBay for £180 from an AKG stockist (5 left people but ends today after 3pm, and no I'm not affiliated with the seller
 ).Also, would you be interested in some ATH-W1000s or just the D5000s? I ask because if you want a demo I could always buy either, burn them in and bring them with me? I wouldn't mind a demo on those two first IF I can find somewhere but if not, at least I can help future newbies from "experience"...
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Posted By: miT
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2009 at 9:13am
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Make that 4 AKGs... I'll let you know what I think once burned in with the Novo.
By the way, burn in with radio static or a radio station? I've always used static...?
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Posted By: mrarroyo
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2009 at 12:12am
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I use music from the radio, but others use all kind of stuff including hot radiators. Remember, if it sounds good to you it is good. ------------- Miguel |
Posted By: miT
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2009 at 12:15am
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What Hifi have their Sound & Vision show in Bristol in Feb, from Friday 20th - Sunday 22nd. The Sennheiser HD800s will be available for demos... It's only £8 to get in! Is anyone going? I'm really tempted, purely for the headphone demo opportunities. |
Posted By: jamescodway
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2009 at 9:11pm
I'm still failing to get the 701s to "rock" in any meaningful sense... does the radiator treatment do something additional to 'normal' break/burn (sorry, I can't remember which is correct!!) in? 
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Graham Slee wrote:Posted By: miT
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2009 at 1:46pm
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Hi all,
After an intense past few weeks I can finally get back online!
My Novo is fully burned in now and she sounds excellent! I'm also extremely happy with my K701s (Graham's radiator treatment definitely helped them). The crispness & the emotional conveyance (OK, I'm just making up words now) is exactly what I was hunting for; a few solo Yo-Yo Ma tracks, the Crouching Tiger soundtrack & The Ashokan Farewell totally blew me away.
My only problem with the K7s is that they lack excitement (as What HiFi claimed) and I believe it is because they are so bass shy. Their abilities make them perfect for my monitoring pair, but only fully thrilling with classical music (they can even become a bit fatiguing with other genres because of this). Then again slightly more bass will probably be even more thrlling, who knows? I praise them highly anyway though.
With the Novo, I found that some extra bits in recordings (i.e. a piano's hammer hitting the keys, the pedal changes, etc) didn't sound as good as when listening to the same things connected directly (no Novo) to my PC. My only explanation is that my source isn't as good as I thought (& basically expected).
I plan to start a new thread to get ideas for replacement sources, but I have to thank everyone for helping me with my journey so far. It's been fun!
I'll be at the Sound & Vision show on the Friday, so I'll hopefully be able to "demo" (not exactly the best place for it) some other CD players & finally choosing my main headphones.
Watch this space...
T
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Posted By: mrarroyo
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2009 at 12:56am
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miT, you better post pics! ------------- Miguel |
Posted By: jamescodway
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2009 at 11:37am
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My tenuous link to this thread is that we've been discussing the (discontinued) HD250 II Linear as a good partner for the Novo... and yesterday afternoon I saw one for myself at Noteworthy Audio in Aylesbury. I checked they were for sale but forgot to ask the price... doh! Anyway, just wanted to raise a couple of other interesting/vaguely relevant points.
Peter at Noteworthy is a nice guy and has some headphone knowledge. But they only stock Rega, Creek & Earmax pro dynamic amps. He has sold some of Graham's phono stages apparently but claims to be a "valve guy". He's particularly keen on a Kimik modified Stax amp with 4040s. I didn't get to hear that as I went to hear the Earmax pro in case it did something good with RS-1 and/or K701. Noteworthy has a decent stock of mid-range Senns; 25SP, 25-I, 595, 600 etc. Grado SR80 & SR325i and AKG K701 So, to the Earmax pro comparison with 2006 solo/PS-1... I heard a friend's (now discontinued) Consonance Cyber 10 (3.5w S.E.T) just after Xmas and it really made the RS-1s sing beautifully. HD650s were also very lively & engaging. K701s decent but didn't cure its basic problem ( to me) of coldness. I guess I was hoping the Earmax pro would have the right kind of power for RS-1 but aS it happens, it turned out as expected from other reports... v. good things with the HD650s but horrendously underpowered for K701 and definitely underpowered for RS-1. So I walked out the shop with only a pair of Rothwell attenuators to tame the hot RCA output from a Consonance CD player ... AND... it seems to me it makes a big difference to the sound of the Solo where the attentuator is set???? Previously it would be 9-11 o'clock range depending on the can, now it is 1-3 o'clock and I can feel there is more power if a little sacrifice on dynamic range? blah blah blah
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Posted By: miT
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2009 at 7:54am
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I agree about the "coldness" of the K7s; the bass is just too underwhelming. My Shure & Westone IEMs blow them away for bass response, even my lowly Senn PX100s! But for analytical listening, I can't fault them.
In my brieft time with them I've found that they are great with classical music & film scores, but don't expect your socks to be blown off with anything else. I played some drum & bass & random dance stuff through them as a laugh not to long ago. Simply shocking, although once again the highs are just so crisp...
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Posted By: mrarroyo
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2009 at 11:43pm
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miT how many hours of burn-in do you have in your K701? If less than 800 you have a long ways to go. ------------- Miguel |
Posted By: miT
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2009 at 12:55pm
Maybe around 100, but I did burn in using Graham's technique for a few days (which worked for him). Actually, I stopped counting after I did that anyway... 
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Posted By: mrarroyo
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2009 at 1:29am
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OK, but I feel the Novo need a good 300-400 hours. Plus it benefits from being left on all the time. ------------- Miguel |
Posted By: miT
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2009 at 8:22am
| My Novo has gone through the suggested 500 hours and is always left on (as I don't want to do that again). As I didn't have the K701s at the time I unfortunately couldn't have them running for the full 500, hence their not as burnt in. |
Posted By: miT
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2009 at 9:36am
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I have now decided to go for the full 800+ hour burn in with the K701s in the hope of acheiving... Something! I actually don't know what more I'm trying to find with them as I don't have any complaints, for analytical listening anyway.
I also have my new source, finally! I have another thread but it is a Cambridge Audio Azur 740C (check the post to see why) so now I really need to choose my hifi set of headphones so I can stop swapping my K701s between my two seperate sources.
The shortlist stands at the Denon D5000/7000, the Sennheiser HD600/650s and the Audio Technica ATH-W1000/5000. Now, to find some dealers where I can demo the Denons & Audio Technicas... |
Posted By: mrarroyo
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2009 at 2:55am
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Except for the D7000 I have listened to all the phones on your shortlist. Of the 5 my favorite is the D5000 followed by the W1000. If I had the cash I would go for the D7000. ------------- Miguel |
Posted By: miT
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2009 at 8:57am
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Cool. I have to admit, the D5s are my favourite of the lot. After reading quite a few comparisons it appears the D7's performance aren't worth the extra money (although as always that is relative to each person). In my opinion, you're paying extra mainly for the aesthetics. I think if the D5s were released at a higher price (considering the performance-per-pound/dollar, etc), then the D7s wouldn't seem so... Overpriced (although they are the equivalent of the GS1000s but much less anyway)?
It's kind of like Graham, but without his common sense: The Novo was released and basically made the Solo pointless (in the value stakes) so to justify it, Graham overhauled the Solo and made it worthwhile again. Denon just seem to have missed out on the justification part (IMO anyway). Or maybe I don't what I'm talking about (and should just demo both)? No surprise there then...
The thing is though Miguel, you've put a terrible idea in my head that I can't shake. I want to contact markl...
But should I get a standard D5, use it, love it, and then get another set for Lawton Audio to perfect? How else will I be able to tell the difference? But then I will go past my ideal aim of having just 2 pairs of 'phones (for static useage). What do you think, considering I can get standard D5s for around £300 ($430)?T
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Posted By: mrarroyo
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2009 at 3:04pm
Evil ideas are good!  In my case it was simple I borrowed a MarkL modded D5000 and compared them w/ an unmodded unit. You being across the pond it would not be feasible.
You could follow the instructions he posted in Head Fi, they are step by step w/ pictures. That way you would save about $200. Good luck. ------------- Miguel |