Foot tapping
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Topic: Foot tapping
Posted By: Humboldt
Subject: Foot tapping
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2014 at 2:25pm
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Hi folks I think many of you have made the same observation as me. Some amplifiers make your foot tapping to the rythm of the music - without a very conscious desicion to do so. On the other hand, with other amplifiers the feets tap very easy at all. Why is it so, what is it in an amplifier that has this effect? I have noticed that some amplifers can have a very nice tone, the instruments are shining and have a very realistic sound, but despite that, the foottapping factor is not there. What is it that make good sounding amplifiers less musical compared to others? |
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Posted By: Ash
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2014 at 2:35pm
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You still enjoying your HD250I with your equipment or have you found something that you like more? ------------- We do not see things as they are. We see things as we are. |
Posted By: Chris Firth
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2014 at 2:40pm
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I don't know about just amplifiers having any bearing on the situation. It's far more comprehensive than that. I have heard a friend's amplification go from being pipe and slippers (well he does have 300B SE monoblocs) to being lively and and having addictive drive and presence with a change of speaker. It's an effect I've heard often enough, and it has happened with source components too with changes of PSU (SMPS to Linear), or interconnect. |
Posted By: Humboldt
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2014 at 2:45pm
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Well, maybe a change of speakers can do the thing to, but I tested an amplifier in my own system a while ago, and it made a much more powerfull impact on my feets. And the only component-variable thet changed in the system was the amplification. If a change of speakers or power supply have the same impact, then what is the common ground for the effect? |
Posted By: Chris Firth
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2014 at 3:08pm
There isn't a common ground. In your case the improvement from your amplification change could have been due to the amplifier being better able to drive your speakers. The effect is no doubt due to overcoming limitations in the playback chain, removing bottlenecks as it were, but it can happen in all sorts of odd areas. I remember hearing a very expensive TT last year, and being somewhat underwhelmed with the entire experience. OK, it made some nice enough sounding noises and nothing stood out as being wrong, but it was just lacking in involvement, incapable of playing music IMO. On this occasion I voiced my thoughts, there was a gradual migration of components from normally mains outlets to being driven from a mains regeneration unit. First the phono preamplifier was moved over, to a small improvement in involvement, but the big winner was when the TT PSU was moved over, when then foot tapping qualities started to emerge. |
Humboldt wrote:Posted By: Fatmangolf
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2014 at 6:01pm
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We know foot tapping musicality when we hear it. However it's not always obvious what tweak is needed to get there. ------------- Jon Open mind and ears whilst owning GSP Genera, Accession M, Accession MC, Elevator EXP, Solo ULDE, Proprius amps, Cusat50 cables, Lautus digital cable, Spatia cables and links, and a Majestic DAC. |
Posted By: Humboldt
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2014 at 6:17pm
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The amplifier I tested was an so called Current amplifier and not one of the more common Voltage amplifers. The diffrence compared to my own amplifer was huge. I think that my own amplifier is not bad at all, but when this killer amp come into my system I realised my system has potential for better. The comment above about bottlenecks is interresting. In my case it is obvious it is the amlifier that is the bottleneck. The thing is, I have put together my poweamp myself. It is a class D amp, dual mono with two 42/630va torids driving two capacitor banks with 30 000 uF each. Now, I think that maybe I could get a better performance if I increase the capacitor bank. If this do not improve things, I have to look for a new poweramp. Ths problem with the amp I tested is nothing but the price. :-( |
Posted By: Fatmangolf
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2014 at 12:57am
I know exactly what you mean there! ------------- Jon Open mind and ears whilst owning GSP Genera, Accession M, Accession MC, Elevator EXP, Solo ULDE, Proprius amps, Cusat50 cables, Lautus digital cable, Spatia cables and links, and a Majestic DAC. |
Posted By: suede
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2014 at 1:12pm
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In my experience the use of ferrite cores or even loosely tied knots in just the right places along interconnects and power cables can have a great impact on the "foot-tappiness" of music. ------------- Proprius, Reflex M, Solo UL, Bitzie, CuSats & Spatia --------------------------------- Johan |
Posted By: Chris Firth
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2014 at 1:21pm
I think we've all been there :( |