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Topic: Speaker rewire
Posted By: Drewan77
Subject: Speaker rewire
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2013 at 8:01pm
I have just finished rewiring 12 Open Back speaker drivers with unterminated Spatia cable which John C kindly sold me yesterday. A bugger of a job as there are 20 pieces of cable in varying lengths, the outer insulation had to be stripped, the soldering iron gave up the ghost halfway through (ie a trip to Maplins) and I had to do the work in situ on the floor. My music room now looks like a workshop Shocked

Anyway it's done so I can burn these in whilst I await 4 pairs of Spatia speaker cable and long Lautus for the subs. This is going to be fun!

A listening session with a pint methinks........Beer


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Older than I once was, younger than I'll be
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Andrew



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Posted By: BackinBlack
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2013 at 8:43pm
A logical move - to keep the cable to the same standard from amp to drive units makes sense.
I'll be interested to see how the sound improves after burn in. Do you find the type and quality of the beer has a particular influence on the various improvements you have made?


Posted By: Drewan77
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2013 at 9:23pm
Originally posted by BackinBlack BackinBlack wrote:

Do you find the type and quality of the beer has a particular influence on the various improvements you have made?

Ale have to see about that, a mild bit, er, lager sound


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Older than I once was, younger than I'll be
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Andrew


Posted By: Fatmangolf
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2013 at 7:24am
Good stuff! Doing an internal speaker rewire is on my winter list so I am really interested in your listening notes Drewan.

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Jon

Open mind and ears whilst owning GSP Genera, Accession M, Accession MC, Elevator EXP, Solo ULDE, Proprius amps, Cusat50 cables, Lautus digital cable, Spatia cables and links, and a Majestic DAC.


Posted By: Drewan77
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2013 at 8:00am
It's early days obviously but what I clearly noticed last night was vinyl surface noise & faint flecks of dust moving into a different place in the soundstage, kind of 'remote' from the music. Instead of being part of the same plane it now seems to be almost 'out of phase' ie no longer mixed in with the signal but floating in the air with indistinct placement . This was apparent on all 3 albums I played & I like this ! (not getting carried away... clicks and scratches are still where they were)

Treble sounds somewhat smoother to my ears which I suppose comes from replacing silver coated copper cable with Spatia. I know the sound signature of my system pretty well so I will be able to comment further over time


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Older than I once was, younger than I'll be
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Andrew


Posted By: Graham Slee
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2013 at 9:19am
I haven't enthused much about the Spatia speaker cable but I will say that it is full of little surprises like Drewan has witnessed. Added together all these subtleties do make a profound difference to the way we hear our music. All I think they're doing is somehow cutting out the trash so the finer points that were there all-along, come through. Maybe it's the low memory? Maybe it's the low capacitance? Maybe speaker cables don't have to be butch? And maybe cable direction has something to do with it also?

Stereo is a wondrous concept that I believe can be taken much further than most people thought possible. If left to a particular school of thought that's been propagated around the world it would simply be about loudness and "authority" (or PRaT), but stereo is more than that. Unfortunately for the masses stereo is the "umph tcha umph tcha" gyrator so often heard emanating from motor vehicles, farmland, historic parks and woodland, plus open windows, in an otherwise gorgeous British summer.

Thanks to our customers and owner's club members having such good tastes there is this small pocket of society where there is more to life - thank God!

Graham


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That none should be able to park up and enjoy the view without a smartphone and the knowledge in how to use apps


Posted By: Drewan77
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2013 at 9:38am
Graham, I have to say thank you too - I love what your equipment is doing to my system, phono amp, cables, interconnects etc.  It makes me want to keep supporting your company and like others here, I am learning to trust your skills implicitly. You also talk sense in an increasingly bland, margin obsessed corporate world.

Yes, 2 channel stereo can be wondrous, holographic and true to life. I like being part of the small community that appreciates that and it's lovely to see the reaction one of 'the masses' gives when they hear it for the first time.

Meeting John, interacting with you and finding a business that is all about integrity and taking customer feedback is truly inspiring.


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Older than I once was, younger than I'll be
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Andrew


Posted By: Fatmangolf
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2013 at 10:09pm
Well said.


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Jon

Open mind and ears whilst owning GSP Genera, Accession M, Accession MC, Elevator EXP, Solo ULDE, Proprius amps, Cusat50 cables, Lautus digital cable, Spatia cables and links, and a Majestic DAC.


Posted By: Drewan77
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2013 at 6:59pm

I will post further listening impressions over the weekend, in the meantime here is the result of the Spatia rewire. The thicker wire is running to a super tweeter, all the others are stripped back to individual conductors. The 4 midrange drivers are wired in pairs. From the positive binding post into one driver positive terminal. Negative out to positive in the other driver and negative back from the second driver to the negative binding post. This maintains the correct impedance. The capacitor protects the ribbon tweeter. There are no crossovers, it is done digitally.


For anyone else considering a speaker rewire (ie Jon), I have a few comments. This may be obvious but I will list my experience nevertheless…. 

a. Please be very careful when stripping the outer sheath so you don’t cut through into the conductor insulation. This is if you decide to slit lengthways and pull the conductors out sideways

As a safer alternative but time consuming, use a blade to cut partway through the insulation at right angles to the length, round the circumference about 75mm from the end. Then slightly bend the cable to ‘break’ this ring away. It can be easily slid along and off the end. Repeat until all done. Slow but no stress to the cable and less risk of the blade nicking the inner insulation. 

b. Don’t pull the inner cable pair hard as you are removing them from the outer sheath - you may stretch and stress the conductors & the insulation.

For anyone else indenting to do this exercise, I would recommend asking/paying GSP to strip back the outer sheath so you purchase just the conductors. Good to give them a little more income too.

c. Follow John C’s example by putting small pieces of blue insulating tape at the signal end of each piece you cut. Once out of the sheath, you will not be able to identify directionality without doing this.


d. It’s best to use a proper cable stripping tool when terminating the ends prior to soldering.

e. The two conductors have an underlined, but very narrow number 1 and number 2 printed regularly along the length to aid channel identification. As they alternate reading from left-right-left-right etc, you cannot use this to determine directionality


 

 

 



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Older than I once was, younger than I'll be
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Andrew


Posted By: Fatmangolf
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2013 at 7:12pm
Thank you for sharing this experience, Drewan - much appreciated.

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Jon

Open mind and ears whilst owning GSP Genera, Accession M, Accession MC, Elevator EXP, Solo ULDE, Proprius amps, Cusat50 cables, Lautus digital cable, Spatia cables and links, and a Majestic DAC.


Posted By: JamesD
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2013 at 10:05pm
I intended to rewire my DIY loudspeakers with the Spatia cable and contacted John C to do this. A house move followed shortly afterwards and unfortunately there's a 100 and 1 things to do in my new home so the job is going to have to wait. Indeed, the crossovers are still sat on the carpet waiting for a new soldering job. Not very pretty but no WAF to consider or worry about...

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Aren't ears brilliant


Posted By: Graham Slee
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2013 at 6:34am
The Spatia is a complete cable made to measure and terminated ready for use. It isn't supposed to be available in raw material stock.

However, noting the demand or desire for a "hook-up" wire having such qualities I have identified a single core cable (equipment wire) having the same properties, and even though I know it will deliver the same results, I will be auditioning it first.

Provided it sounds identical to the Spatia (how can it not do...?), we will offer it in 5m hanks at a reasonable price.


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That none should be able to park up and enjoy the view without a smartphone and the knowledge in how to use apps


Posted By: BackinBlack
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2013 at 8:00am
Excellent news. I imagine that this will safeguard the proprietry nature of the Spatia, but allow those of us who wish to maintain the Spatia sound quite literally from source to drivers.


Posted By: Drewan77
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2013 at 12:05pm

The Spatia re-wire has now been in place for almost a week and after further listening, I feel able to give a more objective review. Speakers are still fed by cables from another brand until in a couple of weeks this will also be replaced by Spatia. These only handle midrange & treble, so the re-wire has had no effect on bass performance (Lautus interconnects already on order for the subs):

Treble is now very smooth & sweet whereas before it sometimes had a rather hard bite. I run super-tweeters, previously crossing at 22khz where occasionally there was slight brittleness. I am now able to cross these lower, at 20khz and so far there has been no brittleness whatsoever. Maybe because silver plated speaker wiring has been removed from the signal path. Either way, it is like a very fine adjustment has been made to the top end equalization, benfitting not just FLAC and CD but also vinyl to a lesser extent.

The soundstage has opened up with instruments more clearly placed and 3 dimensional than before. This effect, even with a 2 channel system has been surprising on several recordings, Very fine details such as intakes of breath on closely mic’d vocals now sound very realistic.

As noted previously, vinyl background noise/dust has become indistinct and ‘out of phase’ with the musical signal, now floating free of the musical plane and harder to notice. This is nice.

Overall, a smoother and silkier performance, definitely more musical and natural which is as it should be.  To me the benefits of digital crossovers (very steep slopes, drivers only receiving specific frequencies, proper time and phase alignment, powerful transient response) outweighs the slightly clinical treble which can result on some recordings. Changing this cabling has hade a wholly positive effect.

Noting Graham's comments, I have found this upgrade very worthwhile and a single core version would be perfect for others considering a similar exercise.



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Older than I once was, younger than I'll be
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Andrew


Posted By: Fatmangolf
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2013 at 10:36pm
Thank you. I agree about silver plated copper, it sounds shrill to me. I appreciate others may disagree.

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Jon

Open mind and ears whilst owning GSP Genera, Accession M, Accession MC, Elevator EXP, Solo ULDE, Proprius amps, Cusat50 cables, Lautus digital cable, Spatia cables and links, and a Majestic DAC.


Posted By: Fatmangolf
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2013 at 11:59am
I should add that I couldn't wait until the winter and have done an internal rewire with stranded copper speaker cable. Definitely nicer to my ears on high frequencies and I'll see if the sound changes over the next couple of days.

It was a non-destructive mod, although I had to underdo almost every screw and do some PCB soldering. I have kept the original internal wires with their spade and eyelet connectors so I can return the speakers to "stock."


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Jon

Open mind and ears whilst owning GSP Genera, Accession M, Accession MC, Elevator EXP, Solo ULDE, Proprius amps, Cusat50 cables, Lautus digital cable, Spatia cables and links, and a Majestic DAC.


Posted By: tg [RIP]
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2013 at 11:28am

I was intrigued by Andrews comments about surface noise when reading this thread.

I have not rewired my speakers, but there is not much wire in them and no crossover.

Listening to a much loved but sadly rather less than well cared for, recording of Tchaikovsky and Rachmaninoff piano concertos.

I am noticing exactly the effect he described of the surface noise being spatially separate from the music, most of the noise seeming to be at the plane of the speakers, more as if someone in the front row were crackling a crisp packet and divorced from the performance of the musicians.

I am using Spatia speaker cables and Lautus I/Cs but I am wondering if some of this is from Grahams attention to phase response in his phono stages too.

Whatever, it certainly makes it easier to enjoy the music and ignore the superfluous noise.





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Tony G



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