Print Page | Close Window

Is this real?

Printed From: Graham Slee Hifi System Components
Category: And the rest
Forum Name: Amplification
Forum Description: Share your interests or views on amplifiers, preamps, etc
URL: https://www.hifisystemcomponents.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1528
Printed Date: 27 Mar 2026 at 4:01am
Software Version: Web Wiz Forums 12.01 - http://www.webwizforums.com


Topic: Is this real?
Posted By: Frostg
Subject: Is this real?
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2012 at 1:56pm
Graham,

Out of interest is this concept real, or is it another example of marketing twaddle to confuse the ignorant such as I?
"Conventional amplifiers have high input impedance and low output impedance. This is mainly because it is more convenient to control the voltage signals in the circuit. However, the S**** C****** is completely opposite that the input impedance input of the S**** C****** is close to 0 Ohms, and the output impedance is above 100 M Ohms. With such behavior, the S**** C****** strictly works with the current signals of the circuit."

Thanks



Replies:
Posted By: Fatmangolf
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2012 at 8:32pm
That is a glorious piece of prose and I too await Graham's appraisal.


-------------
Jon

Open mind and ears whilst owning GSP Genera, Accession M, Accession MC, Elevator EXP, Solo ULDE, Proprius amps, Cusat50 cables, Lautus digital cable, Spatia cables and links, and a Majestic DAC.


Posted By: morris_minor
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2012 at 10:18am
Sounds like the output from a hifi orientated " http://www.dack.com/web/bullsh*t.html - bullsh*t generator " such as you find on the web.

Edit: Ah - the link won't work unless you replace the * with an i. The forum software wants to spare our blushes Embarrassed.


-------------
Bob

Majestic DAC/pre-amp
Accession MC/Enigma, Accession MM, Reflex M, Elevator EXP, Era Gold V
Solo ULDE, Novo, Lautus USB and digital, Libran balanced, CuSat50
2 x Proprius + Spatia/Spatia Links


Posted By: Graham Slee
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2012 at 1:17pm
Originally posted by Frostg Frostg wrote:

Graham,

Out of interest is this concept real, or is it another example of marketing twaddle to confuse the ignorant such as I?
"Conventional amplifiers have high input impedance and low output impedance. This is mainly because it is more convenient to control the voltage signals in the circuit. However, the S**** Circuit is completely opposite that the input impedance input of the S**** Circuit is close to 0 Ohms, and the output impedance is above 100 M Ohms. With such behavior, the S**** Circuit strictly works with the current signals of the circuit."

Thanks


Which t**ser wrote that?

If the input impedance is zero or close to zero it short circuits the source!

If the output impedance is as large as what is claimed here it won't drive anything - it wouldn't tickle a flea!

I could hazard a guess at who the S**** are? Would you like to tell me by PM?

EDIT:

Thank you Frostg for sending me a PM on the aforementioned item. It would seem this is an electronic component (a chip) having low input impedance and high output impedance. It uses "some" transistors and some carbon resistors internally. Incidentally carbon resistors are pretty useless above a few MHz and tend to be inaccurate from 1MHz upwards, but still, I've made some nice sounding circuits with carbon resistors.

However, this company talks about a device that has low input impedance and high output impedance as if it is something new!

It has no negative feedback. Well, yes that will assist it to have those properties. I know plenty of circuit configurations that do very similar - I suppose I could have made a quick fortune and then ran away before I was found out. In fact, I wouldn't have needed to run away because the hi-fi customer in general is willing to believe any old crap and think the sun shines out of your proverbial if you dare to give such things a go.

It does however show the value of having a review with X-moons! I shall not waste my time by quantifying that "value".

I remember how reviewers went on about rainbow foil (less than £5 a 1m x 0.7m sheet from Sydney Beaumont (Leeds) Ltd but incredibly expensive when cut into tiny little strips), short lengths of wire with reef knots and croc clips either end to short out the mains plug pins of equipment not being used - which they said improved your sound... and printers punching waste which a certain Messenger raved on about after filling his KEF speakers with them...

The hi-fi buying public is so easily led down wrong paths but stiffens its resolve against anything that's honestly good for them.

The BS'ers now find they have to be more technical in now selling you little anodised cases with bling connectors. They'll put bits of granite inside them and make use of quartz properties to fuzz up the highs to make you think you've got more detail - well worth the £5,000 price tag?

Honestly I wish I'd gone after a different career direction! I find myself hidden in this den of theives and nobody can hear my honest voice! Apart from most club members here.

Thank you Frostg for having the sense to ask. It is a shame we cannot name and shame.


-------------
That none should be able to park up and enjoy the view without a smartphone and the knowledge in how to use apps


Posted By: ServerBaboon
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2012 at 10:40pm
 Comment removed  

-------------
Steve

-------------

Various bits of GSP Kit ..well two so far, unless you count the cables that is.


Posted By: ServerBaboon
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2012 at 6:13pm

 Fair point, but since you quoted it I can't retract it.   



-------------
Steve

-------------

Various bits of GSP Kit ..well two so far, unless you count the cables that is.


Posted By: Graham Slee
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2012 at 8:20pm
Originally posted by ServerBaboon ServerBaboon wrote:

 Fair point, but since you quoted it I can't retract it.   



What quote? Wink


-------------
That none should be able to park up and enjoy the view without a smartphone and the knowledge in how to use apps



Print Page | Close Window

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.01 - http://www.webwizforums.com
Copyright ©2001-2018 Web Wiz Ltd. - https://www.webwiz.net