Kits!
Printed From: Graham Slee Hifi System Components
Category: Turntable Audio
Forum Name: Graham Slee Phono Stages
Forum Description: Questions, answers, and product information zone for Graham Slee Phono Stage Preamps
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Topic: Kits!
Posted By: Graham Slee
Subject: Kits!
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2008 at 7:03am
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Announced prematurely elsewhere, kits are to feature in the Graham Slee product line-up. We're hurriedly trying to move servers with our dedicated new audio kit and diy website http://www.diyaudiokits.co.uk - www.diyaudiokits.co.uk Once that's done we'll be adding content as fast as we can. There will be a headphone amp kit and a phono stage kit within weeks, plus materials kits for making interconnect cables - not only phono to phono, but XLR, DIN, jack, etc too! So if you like kits and diy, start spreading the word - new kits! new kits! ------------- That none should be able to buy or sell without a smartphone and the knowledge in how to use apps |
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Posted By: robert_cyrus
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2008 at 5:41pm
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Ooooh that's great news, I'd be delighted to build something from Graham Slee myself. I have the Era gold V with psu1, I'm interested in the kit for a headphone amplifier. Will this be similar to the GSP Solo? thanks, Robert |
Posted By: dc2
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2008 at 5:56pm
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Great idea,
MM or MC or both for the phono stage? Will you be offering a PSU with the kits or recommending manufactures part numbers? |
Posted By: Graham Slee
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2008 at 2:03am
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The headphone amplifier will be the http://www.gspaudio-community.activeboards.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=8 - "Duette" we're currently working round the clock on, to try and get it launched at the Bristol hi-fi show by the end of February. It is a discrete design which should be easily built by most kit enthusiasts - spares being easily available in cases where experimentation goes wrong... The phono preamp is my first daring attempt (in public that is) to do both MM and MC in the same box. In fact it's one of two phono preamps: We are to do the Gram Amp 1 phono preamp in kit form too. The kits are to include all the necessary parts including the power supply (and case with pre-punched and printed panels), except we're not planning to do the PSU1 as a kit, but it could be bought to power them. We have a little plug-top linear that we could do as a kit but we can only get the case in the three square pin (UK) configuration. I will try to persuade the manufacturer to do a US version and European version too, but the UK one can be used in Europe with an adapter - not so the US one. ------------- That none should be able to buy or sell without a smartphone and the knowledge in how to use apps |
Posted By: fault151
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2008 at 4:17pm
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Wow! id love to have a go at making something, i guess Graham you will have a list of whats available when you get the site up and running?
------------- http://www.cherishedtrinkets.co.uk http://www.lincolnshirebikenights.com |
Posted By: fault151
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2008 at 5:07pm
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Graham- are you adding the voyager as a kit form or is it just the two you have mentioned for now?
------------- http://www.cherishedtrinkets.co.uk http://www.lincolnshirebikenights.com |
Posted By: fault151
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2008 at 5:09pm
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by the way, i think its a good move producing them as kit form, i guess it must ease up pressure on you and John to hand make them each time.
------------- http://www.cherishedtrinkets.co.uk http://www.lincolnshirebikenights.com |
Posted By: Graham Slee
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2008 at 5:25pm
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We thought it would be good to offer the kits so they looked just like the "real McCoy" with the adage of "constructors series" on the nameplate for obvious reasons... And don't forget, these DIY kits are going to be mainstream products too. A Voyager kit could be a little advanced for most and I have my reservations, but I've been known to cave-in to large numbers of people badgering me  ------------- That none should be able to buy or sell without a smartphone and the knowledge in how to use apps |
Posted By: fault151
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2008 at 5:43pm
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The only reason i'm asking is that i don't have any vinyls or a record player, i already have a green solo, so id like a voyager next. Would it not be ideal to have all of your equipment in kit form? Any idea what the price tag will be on the kits you have in mind Graham? I can't wait to see whats available.  ------------- http://www.cherishedtrinkets.co.uk http://www.lincolnshirebikenights.com |
Posted By: Sol
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2008 at 9:28pm
I have to agree on all accounts .. I have a Solo and a Reflex ... I'd love a Voyarer, and would be more than happy to make one up.
Perhaps Graham would be willing to provide a linear 5V 2a PSU? (just because my Wellborne Labs Squeeze box PSU has died, and I so miss the improvement it makes to my stream FLAC content) - maybe if I ask nicely GSP might consider having a gander and repairing it ;o)
------------- Semper in excretum, nil profundum variat. Non illigitimum carburundum! Cuius testiculos habes, habeas cardia et cerebellum |
fault151 wrote:Posted By: Graham Slee
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2008 at 11:08pm
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Now let's see... In the last half hour it's been suggested I do more interconnects, a speaker cable, mains lead, mains distribution possibly filtered, a turntable, an amp, the Voyager as a DIY kit and a power supply (kit?). It's just taken me 6 months to almost fully perfect a discrete class A headphone amp (sshhhh, keep it under your hat...  ). That makes about 5 years solid slog.If I start work on a Voyager kit now, do you think by the time it's launched there'll be enough customers to make it viable? ------------- That none should be able to buy or sell without a smartphone and the knowledge in how to use apps |
Posted By: jonclancy
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2008 at 12:27pm
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Hi Graham,
Well, this is excellent news indeed!
 I agree with Sol, though - Voyager kit would be ace. You'll just have to increase working more than 25 hours a day!  Seriously, thanks for making this opportunity available.
Jon
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Posted By: fault151
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2008 at 7:40pm
I think the reason a voyager kit would be a great idea is that it's not as expensive as your other gear and people may like to have a go at one as more of an affordable project. Thats the way i loook at it and your also going to be left with a great quality little toy.  ------------- http://www.cherishedtrinkets.co.uk http://www.lincolnshirebikenights.com |
Posted By: Graham Slee
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2008 at 9:39pm
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I've been listening to the replies here and from other sources and the opinion seems to be the Duette is an amp too far. Better to concentrate on something on similar lines to the Solo but at a much more affordable price. I've been working on a circuit as I let slip above, however, the class A could not be made to do the sound quality I want, and feel the customer wants, without resorting to silly money. What I wanted to do was make something using readily available and inexpensive transistors, that's really easy to build and I think I may have pulled it off. I could have a problem on my hands as I could easily listen to this thing instead of my Solo. The Solo still has the edge IMO, but this transistor design is good. I hope Leo doesn't mind me saying this, but he's building one from my design notes so we all get some independent feedback, and I can't wait for it to "burn-in" for him to start his listening tests. ------------- That none should be able to buy or sell without a smartphone and the knowledge in how to use apps |
Posted By: leo
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2008 at 12:02am
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Its currently burning in now
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Posted By: jonclancy
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2008 at 9:25pm
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Is it burned in yet???
 Jon
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Posted By: XTRProf
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2008 at 11:33am
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Hi Graham,
What are in the list for kits?
Thanks.
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Posted By: leo
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2008 at 3:01am
Its not had chance yet, had quite a few updates |
Posted By: bozzy
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2008 at 8:13pm
| good to seeya here Sol... |
Posted By: jonclancy
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2008 at 5:37pm
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Now is it burned in??????
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Posted By: Graham Slee
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2008 at 10:55pm
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It's nearly burned-in again... But I'm not sure which amp this thread is now referring to? 
------------- That none should be able to buy or sell without a smartphone and the knowledge in how to use apps |
Posted By: Graham Slee
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2008 at 5:18pm
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Pssst! Wanna PSU1 power supply in kit form? See my thread http://www.gspaudio-community.activeboards.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=210 - PSU1 Constructors Series Kit for further details... ------------- That none should be able to buy or sell without a smartphone and the knowledge in how to use apps |
Posted By: leo
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2008 at 1:42am
I think things have moved on a bit since the one I built eh Saying that though it sounds damn fine! not bad for a pile of bits soldered together making a funky looking sculture
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Posted By: Graham Slee
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2008 at 9:39am
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Leo, are you up for being on the http://www.gspaudio-community.activeboards.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=224 - beta testers list? Or do you want to test it like I heard you test other amps? ------------- That none should be able to buy or sell without a smartphone and the knowledge in how to use apps |
Posted By: PinkFloyd
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2009 at 10:53am
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How are the kits coming along Graham? ------------- Born again caveman |
Posted By: mrarroyo
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2009 at 12:36am
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Good question Mike, inquiring minds want to know! ------------- Miguel |
Posted By: iamalexis
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2009 at 5:53pm
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i have just discovered the world of graham slee and i'm excited by the diy kits!
i have just upgraded to an era gold v phono pre amp (intro version) and would like to know more about the kits.... the diy power supply, is that similar to the psu1? when will this kit be available and at what price? how technical/skilled do you need to be? i have little experience in the world of electronics and my soldering skills are limited! the most soldering i have done is soldering jack and xlr plugs... i'm also interested in the kit version of the novo headphone amp... p.s apologies if this has been mentioned elsewhere, it's my first post... |
Posted By: Graham Slee
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2009 at 6:38am
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Hi Mike, Miguel and new member Alexis, I think Mike noticed things were getting a bit "long-winded" around here some time ago  Is it because I keep "pushing the boundaries"? Or is it my age!  Actually I think I may have been in auto-pilot mode and now I realise that in a way I'm pushing something away other than what is commonly considered boundaries - it's the component supply industry - see my blog-article http://www.gspaudio-community.activeboards.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=376 - The Fast Flowing Sands of Time . Remember old ECQB? Only saw "him" the other day! Dead? And it happened so quick! (the ECQB is a range of capacitors well-loved by some enthusiasts, made by Panasonic, but not anymore) What do I mean "Auto-Pilot Mode"? Well, when I decided to get into vinyl gear commercially, it had all but disappeared, and now quite a few audio-quality components are heading that way too. That partially explains the pregnant pause in the kits (trying to ensure [a degree at least] consistency of supply), the other reason's been lack of that good old commodity - precious time - due to working on existing gear each time we discover a component in short supply. But, the good news is! This week the kits are being kitted-up! There is the one final test that will hopefully answer Alexis's question, can my 9 year old son build a Novo? He's never handled a soldering iron before, but he has got me so I guess that's an unfair advantage, but a 9 year old will be taking the first kit for a test drive, and hopefully we'll find out any bugs and fix them this week. ------------- That none should be able to buy or sell without a smartphone and the knowledge in how to use apps |
Posted By: tg [RIP]
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2009 at 7:30am
| This is good news, IIRC there was some talk of a change-over board upgrade DIY for the original "green" Solo to bring it to SRG level, is that perhaps on the list also ? |
Posted By: iamalexis
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2009 at 10:45am
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hello
that's brilliant news! i look forward to hearing how your son gets on building the novo. one more question - if somehow one manages to break or damage a component whilst assembling the kit, will it be possible to buy replacement components from you? |
Posted By: mrarroyo
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2009 at 11:40pm
Graham don't do this to your kid! Please, you will enslave him to audio for the rest of his life.  ------------- Miguel |
Posted By: jonclancy
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2009 at 10:33pm
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My ten year old (at the time) had no trouble with 2 x Velleman kits. I was hoping for an assembly Elf, but sadly directions change..... Cheers Jon |
Posted By: mrarroyo
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2009 at 12:38am
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Jon, you are young! go and make another one! ------------- Miguel |
Posted By: jonclancy
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2009 at 9:33am
... in the fact that she prefers the sewing machine nowadays!! 
More kids? Not bleeding likely!
Jon
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Posted By: Jitter
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2009 at 5:16pm
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Just joined - first post
Really interested in kits.
Just ordered a Solo SRG but like the idea of building a power supply for it.
I'm also thinking about an improvement on amplification for my iPOD. Something battery powered.............
Go on, let us have a go at a voyager, otherwise I'm just build a Cmoy in metal box. ------------- ...... and that's my opinion, take or leave it |
Posted By: Graham Slee
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2009 at 1:39am
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A portable is simply an op-amp. Only as good as its implementation. Or you could choose an old Raytheon chip - now that's what I call safe (but dull). What I'd really like to restart is the good ol' British Electronics Mag - circuits to spark-off the imagination - so sadly missing today and reflected in British design culture (count me out on that...) ------------- That none should be able to buy or sell without a smartphone and the knowledge in how to use apps |
Posted By: mrarroyo
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2009 at 1:15am
Received my board kit today!
 ------------- Miguel |
Posted By: iamalexis
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2009 at 12:55pm
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good luck with assembling your novo kit
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Posted By: mrarroyo
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2009 at 11:12pm
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Thanks Alexis. ------------- Miguel |
Posted By: oqvist
Date Posted: 26 May 2009 at 2:46pm
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Hi! Some evil tongues over at head fi mentioned something about a solo to SRG kit or perhaps even a further jump? Or is that just my wishful thinking? I currently has a Slee Solo 2007 with PSU1. I have the problem the Slee Solo is just to good for me to be able to justify a straight jump to the SRG without knowing what I get and it´s impossible to get to hear one where I live. If there is such a kit what skills do you have to have? soldering? I am about as bad of a DIY as you get :) |
Posted By: mrarroyo
Date Posted: 26 May 2009 at 8:09pm
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oqvist, Graham is working on a kit to convert the silver cased Solo's to Solo SRG. It is not out yet. ------------- Miguel |
Posted By: monty99
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2009 at 12:33am
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As a newbie on the site .. would be keen to pick up a PSU1 kit if such a thing exists yet.
Has it been released?
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Posted By: jonclancy
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2009 at 11:20am
Now available here: http://www.headphoneamplifiersusb.com/solosrgiiupgrade.htm - http://www.headphoneamplifiersusb.com/solosrgiiupgrade.htm Jon |
Posted By: mrarroyo
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2009 at 11:51pm
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Nice going there, congratulations. ------------- Miguel |
Posted By: adwatts
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2013 at 4:02pm
| looking forward to the new e-comerce site. It will really enable you to simplify the process and cut out the middleman reseller a bit. |
Posted By: mhamilton
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2019 at 9:13pm
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I heard from other member that a Power Supply kit suitable for 5V output is on the way. Can you provide more info on the availability. Is a schematic available ?
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Posted By: Graham Slee
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2019 at 3:49pm
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The circuit isn't all that different from other proposed linear regulators. Basically it is what you see on the LM350 data sheet ( https://www.onsemi.com/pub/Collateral/LM350-D.PDF - https://www.onsemi.com/pub/Collateral/LM350-D.PDF fig. 20). The LM350 has been around since about 1980 ( https://ia800703.us.archive.org/0/items/NationalSemiconductorVoltageRegulatorHandbook1980/NationalSemiconductorVoltageRegulatorHandbook1980.pdf - https://ia800703.us.archive.org/0/items/NationalSemiconductorVoltageRegulatorHandbook1980/NationalSemiconductorVoltageRegulatorHandbook1980.pdf page 10-93), and has been used in a colossal number of circuits. To get 3 amps continuous out of it requires some care about heatsinking, balancing it with ripple voltage so that with all rated mains voltages reasonably good load regulation is achieved without ripple breaking through. Load regulation can never be as good as quoted for the device because wiring drops voltage. The constructor might wish to experiment by taking the adjustment feed from the output terminals if perfection is required. There are overvoltage crowbars on both outputs (5V and 3V3) should the voltage regulator outputs exceed the set voltages. This would obviously signal a faulty regulator or adjustment circuit fault. The current state of play can be seen here: https://www.hifisystemcomponents.com/forum/5v-3a-psu_topic4221_post59767.html#59767 - https://www.hifisystemcomponents.com/forum/5v-3a-psu_topic4221_post59767.html#59767 I am waiting seeing the finished casework from the metalworking supplier. It seems to be taking an awfully long time, but that's the UK for you... ------------- That none should be able to buy or sell without a smartphone and the knowledge in how to use apps |
Posted By: D8venich
Date Posted: 20 May 2020 at 11:32am
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Hi everyone, I am new to this forum and wanted. I have started to try out diy amplifier kits and got a £10 special from ebay. Whilst searching for another I came across the Graham Slee solo and decided to go for one as I always wanted a Graham Slee amp. Can this kit be upgraded? I know it is really good already, but if there any suggestions please let me know. Thanks
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Posted By: BackinBlack
Date Posted: 20 May 2020 at 12:03pm
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Hi Dave and Welcome to the forum. The Solo sounds superb as is, the best upgrade would be the PSU1 power supply. Grahams' designs are very well thought out in terms of pcb layout, circuit and components. Changing components runs the risk of upsetting the balance. If you trawl through the forum you'll find copious notes from Graham on his designs and the fine tuning applied to get the unique natural sound signature he is rightly proud of. The current thread on the 1970s amplifier design gives a good insight into the detail involved: https://www.hifisystemcomponents.com/forum/1970s-design-indulgence_topic4543.html - https://www.hifisystemcomponents.com/forum/1970s-design-indulgence_topic4543.html Plenty of friendly help is available here, all you have to do is ask! Happy Building Ian ------------- Just listen, if it sounds good to you, enjoy it. |
Posted By: D8venich
Date Posted: 20 May 2020 at 12:57pm
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Thank you very much for the reply and the warm welcome. I certainly am looking forward to this build. I know I will end up with a Graham Slee amp also to compliment this. I think there is something nice about having my own build amp with the genuine Graham Slee amp aside it. Audio equipment is my guilt please so loving the forum. |
Posted By: Robnpg
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2020 at 3:20pm
| I would love to hear some feedback from the kit builders. I'm afraid I would find a way to screw it up :) |
Posted By: ICL1P
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2020 at 4:31pm
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I’ve built two Genera phono amps and thoroughly enjoyed doing so. I had no soldering skills before doing so. ------------- Ifor ===== Reflex M & ACCESSION M, CuSat50, Majestic DAC, a Proprius pair. |
Posted By: lfc jon
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2020 at 4:38pm
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Yes Robert I think I would too I'm a hammer and hit it man ------------- Reflex M, Solo (both with PSU-1) CuSat50, Lautus, Spatia & Spatia links cables. Ortofon Bronze. |
Posted By: BackinBlack
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2020 at 5:32pm
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I also built a Genera some time ago. The kit construction is explained in an easy to follow step by step manner in the instructions. The components were well packed, particular attention has to be paid to selecting the correct resistor values. Reading the coloured bands on them needs good eyesight, a magnifying glass can help here. The soldering skills needed are beginner level and a little practice beforehand will help those not used to soldering. My finished article can be seen on this thread - https://www.hifisystemcomponents.com/forum/phono-preamp-project_topic745_post12913.html?KW=genera#12913 - https://www.hifisystemcomponents.com/forum/phono-preamp-project_topic745_post12913.html?KW=genera#12913 It's certainly a most worthwhile investment, the sound quality will surprise you. Ian
------------- Just listen, if it sounds good to you, enjoy it. |
Posted By: Robnpg
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2020 at 5:38pm
| I need to look into this more. Could be a nice summer project... if |
Posted By: MikeDVB
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2020 at 8:40pm
| The URL in the original post doesn’t seem to work - the domain isn’t registered. Is there another source to look at the kits or am I blind? |
Posted By: ICL1P
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2020 at 10:12pm
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Not ideal, but here you go. https://www.hifisystemcomponents.com/phono-preamps/dak-genera-phono-preamp-parts-kit.html - https://www.hifisystemcomponents.com/phono-preamps/dak-genera-phono-preamp-parts-kit.html https://www.hifisystemcomponents.com/headphone-amplifiers/dak-novo-headphone-amplifier-kit.html - https://www.hifisystemcomponents.com/headphone-amplifiers/dak-novo-headphone-amplifier-kit.html https://www.hifisystemcomponents.com/headphone-amplifiers/diy-solo-headphone-amplifier-upgrade.html - https://www.hifisystemcomponents.com/headphone-amplifiers/diy-solo-headphone-amplifier-upgrade.html ------------- Ifor ===== Reflex M & ACCESSION M, CuSat50, Majestic DAC, a Proprius pair. |
Posted By: Graham Slee
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2020 at 10:58am
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Unfortunately, with the insistence of Google and their kind, we now must buy secure website licenses, which meant URLs have to be redone. I can understand visitors to this site expecting great professionalism and a squeaky clean website, but that isn't going to happen. I am a 65 year old audio and electronics design engineer, and while I might be good at it, I cannot also be a master of the web. With help from friends, and a content management system by WebWiz for the forum, I wrote most of the endless code in notepad over the last 20 years. Had I been better blessed with stacks more customers, I might have been able to afford a website designer, but customers seem to find it hard to believe that after all this time, and rave reviews, that what I do can be better than the well-known names, and so buy other makes. Those who do buy, tend to require proof, which also takes time. The others have all the money. There is no faith, even after opening up with work like the phono preamp topic and many others. The bullsh*t convinces better, doesn't it? So, apologies for broken links, but I'm just one guy, with two excellent helpers who make the stuff, and friends who have given me their help, but otherwise I have to do it all myself. Just telling it as it is.
------------- That none should be able to buy or sell without a smartphone and the knowledge in how to use apps |
Posted By: DogBox
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2020 at 1:54pm
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Graham said:"I am a 65 year old audio and electronics design engineer, and while I might be good at it, I cannot also be a master of the web." I know that I am more than happy - privaleged! to be able to put together a Kit (Genera) of such High Class from a first rate put-together-kit-form unit that gives remarkable quality sound from a Kit that is truly worth much, much more; I can promise that whoever builds one, Will be impressed with the finished article! :) I'm glad you stick to Audio and Electronics Design Engineering, You do it mightily Well! Highly Recommended Kits! and Electronics!! Steve G [Australia]
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Posted By: Str8Wire
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2020 at 10:12pm
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Thanks for your honesty Graham, that’s why customers stick with your products! You are better than most without a dedicated webmaster. J.Reed
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Posted By: Fatmangolf
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2020 at 5:53pm
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I loved the Genera and Novo kits. Easy to build with informative instructions and they sound great. Excellent VFM in my opinion. Thanks again Graham. ------------- Jon Open mind and ears whilst owning GSP Genera, Accession M, Accession MC, Elevator EXP, Solo ULDE, Proprius amps, Cusat50 cables, Lautus digital cable, Spatia cables and links, and a Majestic DAC. |
Posted By: ICL1P
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2020 at 9:35pm
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I could use an integrated amp kit. ------------- Ifor ===== Reflex M & ACCESSION M, CuSat50, Majestic DAC, a Proprius pair. |
Posted By: Graham Slee
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2020 at 10:00pm
He hints ------------- That none should be able to buy or sell without a smartphone and the knowledge in how to use apps |
Posted By: ICL1P
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2020 at 10:06pm
------------- Ifor ===== Reflex M & ACCESSION M, CuSat50, Majestic DAC, a Proprius pair. |
Posted By: Ash
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2020 at 10:12pm
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Just an idea but perhaps it would be easier and cheaper for Graham to focus solely on producing some PCB-only products then only give the user guidance regarding housing them for shielding and protection. No costly metal work and gives him more time to focus on the electronics, also helping to keep prices down for those who like to build things up themselves. ------------- We do not see things as they are. We see things as we are. |
Posted By: Graham Slee
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2020 at 11:01pm
 ------------- That none should be able to buy or sell without a smartphone and the knowledge in how to use apps |
Posted By: Graham Slee
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2020 at 5:51am
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I have difficulty doing the "painting by numbers" expected by many of today's "makers." I flatly refuse to do it! What's wrong with learning about stuff? Isn't it better to share experiences, so the other person benefits from the reception of knowledge? Understandably, my three-year pursuit of trying to make a "retro" amplifier perform "circus tricks" has been hard, if not impossible, to follow. It is, however, packed with information nobody else will explain to you. Its basis is the simplest of amplifier circuits, intentionally so that every component's function might be grasped. I think such comprehension is essential to give the constructor the confidence that they can achieve a lot more. The difficulty I have, which others may care little about, is knowing what your expectations are. I think you will have great expectations and will be disappointed if what you build doesn't match what we offer "commercially." That being the case, I have to put as much effort into a DIY design as I do for everything else. I have to find solutions just like I have to find to make our mainstream products sound as good as they are. Would you think those with a prolific output do the same for you? There is also the problem of time. You might change your mind. The Groove Runner and 5V 3A power supply are good examples of things wanted at the time, but after going to great pains to design them correctly, they are now found to be gathering dust. ------------- That none should be able to buy or sell without a smartphone and the knowledge in how to use apps |
Posted By: Sylvain
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2020 at 5:55am
| Yes.......Commercial reality needs to factored with design indulgences .....but yes semi prepared kit may attract less purchase value added Tax ..But yes the 'way to go' and all the research and experimentation and skills and knowledge that Prof will see glory.... |
Posted By: Ash
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2020 at 7:35am
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I still want the 5V 3A PSU, I am just being disciplined and waiting for my last K1000 to sell, which will hopefully go before Christmas then I am making an order. ------------- We do not see things as they are. We see things as we are. |
Posted By: bass man
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2020 at 4:02pm
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Hello 👋 its been a long time Sold all my hifi gear while refurbishing the house Anyway I bought a 20x10ft log cabin so back in business Old rega p2 deck with a goldring 1012 cart Pioneer a400 again Mission 765 speakers Sounds pretty good Anyway looking on ebay found a guy selling the genera kit Had a bid and got it for £79 posted Na then graham is it worth sticking better caps in or just build as is ------------- paul am from Yorkshire tha nuz |
Posted By: BackinBlack
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2020 at 4:08pm
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Mine sounds really good. I'd say stick with the supplied components. They were after all chosen by Graham to give the best sound. Ian ------------- Just listen, if it sounds good to you, enjoy it. |
Posted By: Graham Slee
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2020 at 5:04pm
Eyup Paul, unless tha wants ter fart abart for three years gettin it ter saand reit, ad stick wi't originals. ------------- That none should be able to buy or sell without a smartphone and the knowledge in how to use apps |
Posted By: bass man
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2020 at 6:25pm
Will do owd lad  Any chance I could try one o them psu once its burnt in ------------- paul am from Yorkshire tha nuz |
Posted By: Graham Slee
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2020 at 7:05pm
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Yes, but John's got them at Anston. ------------- That none should be able to buy or sell without a smartphone and the knowledge in how to use apps |
Posted By: bass man
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2020 at 7:11pm
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Thanks Ian Are you using the standard psu ------------- paul am from Yorkshire tha nuz |
Posted By: BackinBlack
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2020 at 7:47pm
My first GS phono was a Fanfare which I enjoyed for some years with Ortofon MC15 carts. The Genera was an alternative for use with my somewhat vintage Ortofon VM 20 and 30 carts. I initially used it with the standard green wall wart, but when the MC carts became too worn, I upgraded the Genera with the PSU1. I later replaced the Ortofons with an AT440, which I still think bettered many "affordable" MCs of the time. The Genera was a considerable improvement on the Audio Analogue Bellini and Maestro integrated phono stages I previously used, even more so with the PSU1. The PSU 1 is certainly worthwhile and can of course be used with any of Graham's phono and headphone amps if you later upgrade. Ian ------------- Just listen, if it sounds good to you, enjoy it. |
Posted By: Fatmangolf
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2020 at 9:35pm
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I have a Genera pre-amp, which I built from the kit and recommend very highly. I stuck with the capacitors and other parts that Graham selected, except for a guided experiment changing the type and value of the input capacitors. The type supplied in the kit were better than any alternatives I tried. I used my Genera with Graham's DAK Solo headphone amp, running both with the green SMPS adaptors. Very good sound at a pretty low price. Then I got a PSU1 and was pleased with the improvement in sound quality. Hope that helps Bass man. Bass... a fine instrument that underpins most music or the sound that makes you feel music. ------------- Jon Open mind and ears whilst owning GSP Genera, Accession M, Accession MC, Elevator EXP, Solo ULDE, Proprius amps, Cusat50 cables, Lautus digital cable, Spatia cables and links, and a Majestic DAC. |
Posted By: bass man
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2020 at 10:32am
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Thanks for the reply lads The kit should arrive today maybe so when I get a free couple of hours will put it together I had the communicator and was very impressed with the vocals Yes the bass is the backbone with the drums to any music Played for 10 years on the now dead club scene ------------- paul am from Yorkshire tha nuz |
Posted By: Ashleip
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2021 at 12:54pm
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Thinking about getting stuck into one of the genera kits myself. Recently built a pre-amp from a dodgy schematic online on strip board. Shame it sounded completely crap. Was worth it though because laying it out, troubleshooting and getting it to work was half the fun - it had been a few years since I'd last used my soldering iron.  It's now in the bin and feel like it would be good to put something together that's well designed and actually sounds good
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Posted By: bass man
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2021 at 7:58pm
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Hello fellas just built the genera kit and only getting sound from one channel Not been on here for a while ,mother died at Xmas What have I done wrong lads ------------- paul am from Yorkshire tha nuz |
Posted By: Graham Slee
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2021 at 8:06pm
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Whatever it is, it'll be easily fixed (probably by John ) ------------- That none should be able to buy or sell without a smartphone and the knowledge in how to use apps |
Posted By: bass man
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2021 at 8:17pm
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Haha forgot the link graham whats best thing to use ------------- paul am from Yorkshire tha nuz |
Posted By: BackinBlack
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2021 at 8:50pm
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Use one of the lead offcuts trimmed from a resistor after soldering. Happy Listening Ian ------------- Just listen, if it sounds good to you, enjoy it. |
Posted By: bass man
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2021 at 9:24pm
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Cheers mate binned it all haha but found a cheap cap and took it off that Gotta pick missus up from work then back in my cabin with a single malt for a few hours see how it sounds ------------- paul am from Yorkshire tha nuz |
Posted By: bass man
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2021 at 10:57pm
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Still only one channel i must have mixed resistors up somewhere Oh well ------------- paul am from Yorkshire tha nuz |
Posted By: BackinBlack
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2021 at 9:22am
Hi Paul, these photos of mine might help identify the problem.  IIRC the most common problem is confusing the resistors R5 and R8, 390k ohms and 390 ohms. Hope that helps. Ian ------------- Just listen, if it sounds good to you, enjoy it. |
Posted By: bass man
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2021 at 10:00am
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R2a and R2b are different colours on mine They are blue ones ? ------------- paul am from Yorkshire tha nuz |
Posted By: bass man
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2021 at 10:16am
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Are you on wattsapp Ian I will send you a pic Cant upload on here not a clue haha ------------- paul am from Yorkshire tha nuz |
Posted By: BackinBlack
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2021 at 11:32am
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I've sent you a PM. ------------- Just listen, if it sounds good to you, enjoy it. |
Posted By: bass man
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2021 at 2:38pm
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Big thanks to Ian for checking on my work Told me to inspect soldering as the components were OK Oh yes I had missed a pin on the ic Thanks Ian great guy ------------- paul am from Yorkshire tha nuz |
Posted By: BackinBlack
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2021 at 4:16pm
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Thanks Paul, pleased I could help. ------------- Just listen, if it sounds good to you, enjoy it. |
Posted By: bass man
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2021 at 5:00pm
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Sounding sweet been playing for a few hours now so all good Will be spinning until the early hours fresh bottle of single malt Enjoy people ------------- paul am from Yorkshire tha nuz |
Posted By: bass man
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2021 at 6:16pm
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Superb sounding kit for no money ------------- paul am from Yorkshire tha nuz |