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I see where your coming from.
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WMA was a proprietary codec developed by Microsoft. I never used it because I'm not a fan of proprietary codecs. FWIW, IIRC, there was nothing really wrong with WMA other than compatibility issues with some hardware. Overall there was no compelling reason to use it over a much more widely compatible format like a LAME encoded mp3.

Back when I used mp3s for portable devices and such I would always use 320 VBR because it gave the best sound quality for mp3 while also saving space. It should work fine with your car system if it is mp3 compatible.

If you do convert some FLAC files to mp3 for the car, my advice is to save the original FLAC files. Reason being you cannot transcode an mp3 back to FLAC and get the original information back. Once it is lost, it stays lost. The only thing you can do at that point is re-rip the CD or re-download the files.


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I don't have any intentions of converting FLAC into mp3 as I wont the best quality for my HiFi. I just wonted to know if WMA was any good?
It's just a pity that the album is only coming out as a download or I have to pay over £40 to import the vinyl record from the USA, I can't be the only one that's disappointed in this album not coming out on CD or vinyl world wide. As a lot on this forum are saying this is going to be the norm but I can't help but think the artists could be missing out on a lot royalties as a lot of people like me like a hard copy and may not be bothered to download it (not me)
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If it helps you could convert your download and  burn it onto cd so you have a hard copy. Admittedly not vinyl.
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That is what I intend to do (put it on CD) I do know it will play in my home system but not sure in the car that's why I will probably convert it to mp3 and put it on a USB stick.
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Originally posted by lfc jon lfc jon wrote:

I don't have any intentions of converting FLAC into mp3 as I wont the best quality for my HiFi. I just wonted to know if WMA was any good?
It's just a pity that the album is only coming out as a download or I have to pay over £40 to import the vinyl record from the USA, I can't be the only one that's disappointed in this album not coming out on CD or vinyl world wide. As a lot on this forum are saying this is going to be the norm but I can't help but think the artists could be missing out on a lot royalties as a lot of people like me like a hard copy and may not be bothered to download it (not me)


Jon, sorry, I should have been more clear.

WMA is just as good as other lossy codecs like mp3, AFAIK, assuming you encode at a similar bitrate. It is not better than mp3, or other competing lossy codecs.

Microsoft developed WMA to go with their Zune product and the Windows Media store. The idea was they would have their own proprietary format, just like Apple had AAC for Ipods and the Itunes store.

Like I said I don't like proprietary codecs, so I don't use them and never really have. I have tried them, sure.

In your case for car listening I would just use whatever is most convenient and works with the car system. A bit rate of 256 CBR or 320 VBR is probably sufficient for car listening.
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Originally posted by lfc jon lfc jon wrote:

I don't have any intentions of converting FLAC into mp3 as I wont the best quality for my
It's just a pity that the album is only coming out as a download or I have to pay over £40 to import the vinyl record from the USA, I can't be the only one that's disappointed in this album not coming out on CD or vinyl world wide. As a lot on this forum are saying this is going to be the norm but I can't help but think the artists could be missing out on a lot royalties as a lot of people like me like a hard copy and may not be bothered to download it (not me)


I understand your frustration and have been there many times. I always prefer a physical copy of some sort but have to cave on downloads sometimes and I started to become more okay with downloads a few years ago. I still strongly prefer physical media, as it's easy for things to get buried on the hard drive and then I just forget to listen to them.

In order for a record or CD to be sold worldwide, the label or artist has to have some kind of distribution system. There are huge distributors that offer this service for physical media but they charge a fee for it. They want the record at wholesale prices and in many cases they will not pay the artist or label right away. They will send payment when a certain amount have sold, or once every 90 or 180 days. They also have the right to refuse to distribute items for any reason.

Back in the 80s, 90s, and 2000s many independent labels and artists lost a LOT of money or in some cases went bankrupt due to distributor collapses. Three I can think of off the top of my head were Rough Trade US (the distro/label, not the record shop), Dutch East India, and EFA Media (Germany).

In every case they imploded still owing money to labels and artists. In some cases they also had deals to control manufacturing and never gave accurate accounts of sales to the labels and artists (P&D deals).

Fast forward to 2022. For many artists these massive distributors (or even a smaller one) are simply not an option anymore and they need to be paid up front for their wares. For smaller scale independent artists, that means selling directly.

In some cases, a smaller scale artist may be able to sell a certain minimum of copies to various record stores around the world for payment up front, but then the store will add any import and overhead costs to make their margins. It goes without saying that no store is going to do this for an artist whose albums wouldn't quickly sell.
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