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Richardl60
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Posted: 28 Jan 2016 at 9:21pm |
Agree over cables though whilst I am not convinced Graham agrees but the one cable not in the GSP range is the mains cable. In my experience mains does provide the biggest overall improvement (including mains hub/block) -rubbish in rubbish out. I tried several brands of mains before settling on one brand during which time I have migrated successfully to their top of the range for block and amp/cd. Some are overpriced vs performance whilst others provide in my experience a bigger improvement in all aspects than spending £1,000+ on electronics.
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Graham Slee
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We may do it one day Richard, and we'll let you test them for us.
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Ernie
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Hi Richard,
Always thought of £500 kettle leads as being snake oil. What's your experience/recommendations? There seem to be thousands of the things around, silver ones, screened ones, plaited ones, ones which solid silver IEC connectors, rhodium plated plugs, gold plaited fuses... The list goes on. Makes me think it's all complete bobbins! Any noise will either be induced, so some sort of twisted construction is needed to give a good common mode rejection or via contact so some sort filter on the incoming. I always thought the power supply in the unit would take care of any noise but noise is a funny thing. |
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DaveG
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That seems to be the argument put forward by the guy from Blue Jeans cable and it certainly made me stop & think, y'know if a cable guy doesn't want to sell mains cable?? It also seems an entirely logical argument to me. Also the Power supply to my TT for instance, is supposed to be Never Connected. Dunno what that means in reality, but the idea is that the DC side is effectively Isolated from anything that goes on in the AC side. Other people swear that mains cables make a huge difference. Both can't be right so one camp is wrong. But which? My own personal jury is out. I do have "proper" mains cables & a good quality distribution block but not anything particularly exotic. (Some people might say that £450 on a distribution block or £250 on a 1m bit of mains lead is beyond exotic & more like borderline lunacy - audiophile land is a different world to the one most people live in tho )
The cheapest sounds no different to the most expensive to my ears but I know it's not exactly a big sample of what's available. It's also many years since I did a comparison against stock mains leads, but I did think I was gaining an improvement at the time. Maybe I should just borrow some expensive cables & find out for sure? |
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morris_minor
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As far as mains cables go, I have difficulty in accepting that the final metre of cable of a long chain of cables and connections from a power station can have any significant effect on the "quality" of electricity seen by a piece of equipment.
I can understand that having mains filters can alter what the equipment receives, and if cables can act in similar ways then maybe there is something in this. But I'm loath to spend a potful of money in an area inhabited by a lot of snake oil merchants. Should Graham ever produce a mains cable I'd be first in the loan queue to have a listen . . .
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Bob
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JamesD
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I tend to agree, although is that statement also saying in a roundabout way that there's no difference in mains plugs, fuses and IEC connectors too?
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DaveG
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I'd say that all IEC connectors aren't equal, if only because some don't fit that well. Keeping contacts clean is surely a sensible thing too. Sound wise, I really don't know and I've honestly never even thought about fuse changes. That's why my own leads tend to be on the more basic side but not bog standard. Gold or Silver plated MK's & Wattgate IEC's. I must admit some of my IEC's aren't as snug as they could be, but the plug on the end of the lead is only half of the connection...
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Dave
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