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Overall I really enjoy the 2M Bronze...there just happen to be parts of a song that are a tad on the bright side and it takes me out of the song briefly when it happens.

I haven't compared the Bronze to many other carts. I had an Exact when I first got the P2 and swapping them made a huge difference but listening to other carts is usually in store with TTs, amps and speakers that I'm not familiar with so it isn't easy to differentiate...

I have been toying with upgrading to a 2M Black when the time comes but I think I'd like to to try a few phono stages out beforehand to see what difference they make.
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Originally posted by Guy Guy wrote:

Hey Andy:

It's been a little while and I've started appreciating how much more cohesive the overall soundstage is with the P8.

Everything is tighter, there is no separation between instruments / vocals like with the P2, the music hits you (or washes over you depending on what you listen to), the bass floor has lifted, the table disappears, I find myself sitting back and closing my eyes more often than not...

I kept my Ortofon 2M Bronze as it has lots of life left and wanted to save some cash. Funny how it's still a bit bright but a bit more noticeable nowadays. It may have something to do with the nature of the 2M series and the Supernait's built in MM phono stage...I may paly with some alternatives to see if I can warm it up a bit...maybe an Accession MM?

Originally, I was running the Dynavector through the integrated phonostage of my Rega Elex-R and found it to be a little bright, unpleasantly so on some albums. It has softened a little as it settled in, but still runs a little shrill on certain vocal tracks and with some horns (some of my audiophile Miles stuff is a tough listen in places). However, I am currently loaning a Accession MM and it is a proper game changer.* Those brash highs have been tamed, everything sounds more refined and balanced, with a far more expansive soundstage. I’m only a few days in and cannot imagine going back to the Elex-R, so much so, I’m expecting to place that order over the next couple of days. 

I’d encourage you to try the Accession MM - but just be aware that you may not want to go back :)

*And thank you to Graham for the loan scheme and to John for kindly coordinating and getting me set up. 


Edited by Andy75 - 15 May 2022 at 7:40pm
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I have said this before it's hard to audition cartages as there are not a lot of HiFi shops that will allow you to do this, I can see why this is so as they would have wear them in for starters so you could hear the best out of them and that's time consuming. The other one is is down to money and that is there is not a lot of profit to be made on one that for example costs under £100, all shops have to make a profit.
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