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Do SUTs work well with the Accession MM

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    Posted: 28 Mar 2022 at 3:50am
Hi,

Saw a post in review by Michael Fremer on the Accession MM that the Bob’s Devices SUTs work really well with the Accession MM. Has anyone had experience in this area?


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I'm using a Rothwell MCX (1:10) SUT with Accession M, cartridge is Audio Technica Art-9XI. So far, very happy with the gain, normally I set at 10 o'clock for my listening via Stax headphones.

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I acquired a Denon AU-250 step-up transformer and connected it to my Accession MM and my arm cable to the AU-250 and powered everything up and nothing bad happened. 
I don't have a suitable cartridge to test this set-up further however. I think there might be a great orthodoxy of cartridge matching thought locked up in a false SUT vs. Active Head Amp dichotomy, but i'm not sure. i can attest only that it's safe to a limited extent to connect a step up transformer to Accession MM.
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You are right there is an orthodoxy or rather calculations for stepping up the MC voltage to MM levels (turns/gain ratio) whilst matching the impedance (turns ratio squared) so it depends on the cartridge and SUT. Without knowing your cartridge I can't tell if will work well or sound boring/safe. Sorry to be pedantic but choosing between an SUT and a head amp is a dichotomy as it is two distinct options.
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I couldn't find the spec for the AU-250 but lets imagine its gain is 10x. If so the cartridge would see 470 ohms loading, 47k / 100. If that was too high a 12k resistor could be added in parallel to the preamp input to give the cartridge 100 ohms loading.
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Jon,
You're spot on, the Denon AU-250 gain is 10x
Update: I got hold of a Denon DL103 and played it through this SUT and my Accession MM and it sounds wonderful. I think I've found my perfect cartridge/ phono preamp combination.
Do SUT's work well with the Accession MM? 
In this instance and my experience, Yes!

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