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If your research is based on existing knowledge in specialist fields and you can direct ASA to the relevant literature and references, how can they deem your marketing to be false. I would Harvard reference every single bit of supporting evidence I could find and link it to real world scenarios where it is obviously verifiable.

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Cables talk is a very contentious subject "in HiFi", there are still people that say they don't make any difference and any old cable will do. They did a bit on cables on Channel 5 The Gadget Show all be it on video content, between the free cable and a aftermarket one and they said they saw no difference, it caused quite a lot stir on their social media site, One person said I bet the the cables used in the studio aren't any old cheap ones

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Cables can make a difference, in my opinion, but you need to get the basics right.
I had a friend who was adamant that cables made no difference. I changed my speaker cables to some that were known to be a bit “harsh” and he was amazed at the difference they made.

He used to buy the cheapest interconnects from Amazon etc. but after borrowing a set of cables I had made, he upgraded his cables as he preferred the difference.

A video cable may be different, depending on the length etc.
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Graham accept that Silver is  a ''better'' conductor than Copper. But studio recording are made with copper or even '' tin-copper'' and musical instruments use copper to connect with recording equipment. I use John's own handy made cable or copper and  chunky well shielded between Proprius and DAC. I also say that '' Silver interconnect'' well made and 6 times dearer can make a substantive ''difference'' in musical dynamics. But music is about the experience in the listening and I am trying to make my own for sake of cost, hybrid, tin copper with a dash of silver ''' but with aluminium foil and Heavy braid tin copper shielding. The pin on the connector must be Copper or better with a heavy coat of silver. My view and others will say '' Not slight bit of difference just more money''. 
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With standard cables, whether there is a difference compared to specialist depends on whether they have any shortcomings to begin with. It depends on the type of signal being transmitted as well. Constructive/destructive wave interference depends on the specifics of the waves interacting. In some scenarios, the resultant wave/s will be barely affected, if at all, whilst in some scenarios, the effect will be quite significant, and possibly even measurable.
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I know or at less I think there is a difference between video and audio cables but the basic principles must be the same, as with anything if you use cheap or inferior materials your end product is going bad or at less not as good. I had a mate who I gave some old cables to I was not using (his new puppy chewed his) and he also heard a difference for the good from the free ones he was using and ended up replacing his speaker cables too. I will admit when it comes to video cables I use the free ones as for me TV, Video is not as important to me as my music.
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Originally posted by Sylvain Sylvain wrote:

Graham accept that Silver is  a ''better'' conductor than Copper. But studio recording are made with copper or even '' tin-copper'' and musical instruments use copper to connect with recording equipment. I use John's own handy made cable or copper and  chunky well shielded between Proprius and DAC. I also say that '' Silver interconnect'' well made and 6 times dearer can make a substantive ''difference'' in musical dynamics. But music is about the experience in the listening and I am trying to make my own for sake of cost, hybrid, tin copper with a dash of silver ''' but with aluminium foil and Heavy braid tin copper shielding. The pin on the connector must be Copper or better with a heavy coat of silver. My view and others will say '' Not slight bit of difference just more money''. 

The difference is not huge between silver and copper, according to my ears. I made myself a UP-OCC silver cable with pure silver connectors. That sits between my phono stage and pre amp. It is very short, as silver is very expensive. Compared to a UP-OCC copper cable with pure copper plugs, it is not massively different. I still use the copper, as I have it. Some people I know have tried silver, but prefer the sound that copper gives. Silver is a better conductor, science has proven that.

Some people even prefer brass connectors as it gives instruments a more lifelike sound. At the end of the day, it is your system, and your ears that you need to make happy. 

One forum I use regularly has people using PC-Triple C copper from Japan. Apparently it is very good, and they are buying these interconnects and then soldering on new plugs. I refuse to go there, as there cannot be a big difference between PC-CCC and PC-OCC to warrant the cost in my view.

You need to know where to draw the line.
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