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Speaker recommendations for Proprius? |
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RichardSwan
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Thanks, Graham. I don’t have much flexibility to change room dimensions, so it seems I will have to try to audition a selection in the space I have, and then choose..... There might be an option that I can explore.... What would be your opinion if the room was 18’ x 13’6” x 10’ high, with the speakers along the long wall?
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RichardSwan
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Thanks very much, Mick.... I had no idea that room shape could make such a huge difference.... Those PMC Twenty5 22i speakers could be a real contender and at a great price point....
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Bags
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To answer the question what do I mean by efficient, two of my pairs of speakers are resistive 8 ohm loads, a typical valve speaker if you will. The third pair are a more like a real world 6 ohm load. They typically respond well to biamping (4x Proprius rather than 2 is a consideration on your budget.) The less resistive pair sounded good whereas the more resistive pairs really sounded great.
Of the resistive pairs one was 93db efficient whereas one was only 88db efficient. As expected, the 93db speakers were louder at any given volume setting, but both were dynamic like real music is. Bear in mind that other folk on this forum use speakers that are less resistive with propriuses and are very happy with them. I'm sure Graham also tested them with a wide variety of speakers in development.. However, to my ears the more resistive load allowed the amps to perform at their considerable best.
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Fatmangolf
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Good points well made. I liked Bags' earlier advice about using the new amps with your existing speakers. That allows you to start from a sound you know, then experiment with speaker positions and where you sit. Graham is right as I've written many times... room dimensions are the starting point, I have a nearly square room and it took some figuring out on the positions for hifi and furniture, then I added some bass traps. If it helps I have used a lot of different speakers with my Proprius amps in my listening room. I suggest it will be about matching your preferred sound and the speakers you try. |
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Graham Slee
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Much better! With speakers set apart 7 feet you can afford them to be 3 feet out into the room, and you would be 3 foot 6 away from the 'back wall'. Just try and keep it symmetrical. See for yourself https://amcoustics.com/tools/amroc?l=18&w=13.5&h=10&ft=true&r60=0.6
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Bags
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My Proprii are installed and running in and I'll leave it a few weeks with my current speakers before deciding on something new.
That said, I picked up a pair of one owner Kef Q35s with broken terminals for a tenner on eBay. Having replaced the speaker terminals I tried them on the front of my Proprii, and I have to say they were a fine investment for a tenner. They are pretty lightweight so some additional mass should help but I have a fine 3d soundstage, natural sounding bass, excellent mid range and better treble than I was expecting. A lot of fun for a tenner and I'll make a few bob on them if I decide to sell them on.
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RichardSwan
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I went for PMC Twenty5 23i in the end….. Lovely…..
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