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Graham Slee
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Let us not get confused with "bridged," and I'm now beginning to realise this topic might be about bridged headphone amplifiers???
Unless you have my "dark" sense of humour, as a qualified person, you'd call bridged bridged - you'd not call bridged balanced. However, the thick marketing guys do a great job of misleading the hi-fi buying public. They should be locked-up, preferably in a bottomless pit, for at least 1,000 years! |
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Graham Slee
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"OK, look into my eyes, the amplifier you are about to hear is balanced.
As we all know, balanced is totally silent, and so you will hear complete silence, until the music starts. Instead of the crappy one sided sound of a conventional amplifier, you'll hear the complete music - both sides. When I click my fingers, you will trash anybody who doesn't advertise balanced." We only have the ASA in Britain - it only applies to us. It's difficult for the ASA to prosecute Americans and the Chinese for what they're good at (fake ads). |
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BAK
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And the eagle swoops down to take us out of our trance! That hype that hypnotizes! It is brain-washing! Good one for Graham!
I agree with Graham
Ash, you are correct.
Jon, you are correct. Any signal cable less than 8 feet (about 2.5 meters) is not going to benefit much from the common mode rejection properties of a balanced connection. At about 10 feet the difference will start to be noticeable, but just barely. With high impedance microphones (>1k ohms) single-ended RCA or UHF connectors were used up to 10ft long without a problem ... sometimes up to 25 feet, even. With low impedance dynamic microphones (50 to 150 ohms) the signal coming out of the MIC was balanced by the transducer directly or transposed with an internal balanced line transformer, that was then able to traverse up to 150 feet. With the use of "fantom power" on the MIC cable, the MIC could have its own preamp built in to drive longer cables with more clarity... balanced cables are not new... they are as old as radio used them in the 1940's !!!! and nothing newer has been made to improve the concept using wire cables. Only newer uses of old technology. Even the + and - signal balancing was 1st done in the early years (1940's). Don't be brain-washed! RCA cables are very good, and double-shielded, triple-shielded, even quad-shielded coax cables are the choice for most industrial and military signals... except armored ethernets which require twisted pairs and extremely low capacitance. Edited by BAK - 18 Mar 2021 at 4:03pm |
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Bruce
AT-14SA, Pickering XV-15, Hana EL, Technics SL-1600MK2, Lautus, Majestic DAC, Technics SH-8055 spectrum analyzer, Eminence Beta8A custom cabs; Proprius & Reflex M or C, Enjoy Life your way! |
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BAK
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Any questions about cables would ultimately be answered by a cabling engineer who has made cables of all types for many, many years... for broadcast radio, staging music venues, mixing boards "rats nests", etc...
John C on the forum, take a bow. John hand makes and tests every cable.
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Bruce
AT-14SA, Pickering XV-15, Hana EL, Technics SL-1600MK2, Lautus, Majestic DAC, Technics SH-8055 spectrum analyzer, Eminence Beta8A custom cabs; Proprius & Reflex M or C, Enjoy Life your way! |
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Graham Slee
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Not forgetting the London Planetarium!
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Graham Slee
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And most of Bush House (World Service). And Hallam, Pennine, Viking, Buzz FM, Red Rose, CN FM, Pulse FM, Red Dragon (Cardiff), and stacks more. Plus BBC local radio stations. Red Tape and Human League recording studios. (he can't remember anymore - he's getting on you know...)
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Fatmangolf
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That's quite a CV. I buy John's cables because they sound and look better than the ones I make. |
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Jon
Open mind and ears whilst owning GSP Genera, Accession M, Accession MC, Elevator EXP, Solo ULDE, Proprius amps, Cusat50 cables, Lautus digital cable, Spatia cables and links, and a Majestic DAC. |
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