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Graham Slee 
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 Posted: 02 Oct 2019 at 8:07am |
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Mick, well said! As each of my PCs has died and were replaced, the more difficult it's been to get a satisfactory sound. My latest office PC sounds so bad I had the previous one "reincarnated" at some considerable cost, and it is now the equivalent of a juke box (with no other use). It has DS, KS, WASAPI (event and push) as well as ASIO4ALL v2. On that machine WASAPI push sounds better than ASIO4ALL v2, which wasn't the case with the PC before it. I also have a few CD transports. Using S/PDIF outputs, they all sound different, and to my ears the "dirt" cheap DVD player beats my Marantz CD player by a significant margin. You don't need golden ears.
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Posted: 02 Oct 2019 at 8:46am |
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Going back to Tim's original question for a mo'.
'Can you please describe what analogue sounds like to you, especially in comparison to the digital equivalents?'
It's a very personal thing but LP at its best generally has a more convincing way with tonal & timbral definition and soundstaging, but CD tends to have more drive & a more 'powerful' sound... The 'generally' caveat 'cos so much depends on recording quality, LP condition, turntable setup etc. etc. |
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Posted: 02 Oct 2019 at 11:39am |
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Regarding the CD "loudness wars"; if the same master as used to produce the cutting head tape for vinyl, is used for the CD version, via a compressor to obtain the required "loudness", then any high pitched section of the recording sends it all high pitched like a swarm of bees round a beehive.
I am just pointing out how the electronics works (which is why I explained "mixer gain"). I would have thought such an explanation would be bang-on-topic? |
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Posted: 02 Oct 2019 at 12:02pm |
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The above effect can be heard on the Pet Shop Boys "I'm not scared" from "Introspective", where the compressor follows the highs on the digital version, but the vinyl keeps it "flat". I guess such differences might be common to pop and rock, and less so with classical.
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Posted: 02 Oct 2019 at 12:16pm |
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In fact, the above album in digital is (thanks to the compression) "dressed" with high frequency second-harmonic distortion, which is highly distracting, and is the complete opposite on vinyl, on which it has the feel of a professional presentation. Now, if you were only to play audiphile recordings the above might not matter, but I don't have any, and prefer to listen to the more common stuff, with which I try to make electronic circuits give a good representation. However, it is impossible with much in digital audio to do that without the addition of the dreaded tone controls.
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Posted: 02 Oct 2019 at 1:10pm |
No one is suggesting otherwise.
I merely went back to Tim's original specific question - being a bit too slow to post owt before.  |
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Posted: 02 Oct 2019 at 1:21pm |
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Oh sh**! I didn't mean to cause any tifs
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