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John1479 
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Extract from my original email sent to MF. He made no direct reference to this in his replies, completely ignored. The subsequent comments noted in my previous post were in a frustrated attempt to provoke an answer to this point.
Sent to MF 17th June "Absolutely no mention of the hard won and highly valued US Patent..... Pub. No.: US 2017/0126186A1 Why no mention? Seriously; Why not? The innovative technology has been granted a patent. It's only reasonable to assume that the US Patents Office consulted experts on this? Not good enough? It seems to me this irrefutable innovation was deliberately omitted from the review and one must ask why? " |
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Posted: 13 Jul 2019 at 3:59am |
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When presented with an idea one has not encountered, or which runs contrary to received wisdom, one has two options.
1. “Well that’s not what I expected. I’d better check that out and see if there’s anything to it, so that I know I understand before passing comment or judgment.” 2. “That’s different to everything I know. Must be wrong” Perhaps some people in positions of influence just fall into the second category. Mick.
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Posted: 12 Jul 2019 at 9:02pm |
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I can assure you that the US Patent was a dominant feature of my argument sent to MF. On Monday 17th June, I wrote in response to an earlier email from MF:- "No reference to the Patent. Unique technology. Who else in recent times has been awarded a US Patent for demonstrable improvement in high fidelity audio ?" MF replied :- "Patents are not granted based on “audio quality”." No mention of Unique technology from MF. The only further reference to the Patent was as follows:- "The link you sent was to Slee's patent application not to his actual patent. His actual patent references a patent application made by Channel D's Rob Robinson, who applied for a patent related to "flat" response. Robinson is reviewing the patent." The link referred to is:- Edit to correct font size and clarify email correspondence extracts Edited by John1479 - 12 Jul 2019 at 10:26pm |
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Posted: 12 Jul 2019 at 7:56pm |
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The only suggestion to MF I would make is that the US Patent Office has confirmed the GS approach is new. It is interesting that his approach is to seek an opinion to dispute.
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Posted: 12 Jul 2019 at 4:38pm |
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This is a bit of a side point, so apologies if it doesn't belong here. Feel free to move it to a different topic if necessary.
At any rate, one thing I have noticed about Fremer lately is that he often very lazy and fails to do basic due diligence before writing up reviews on records and equipment. If he were a random blogger or forum enthusiast that would be one thing, but he is supposedly an industry professional and is held up as some kind of guru. As an example, recently he posted a review of a record reissue where he goes into speculation about sourcing and whether the record is truly all analog mastered or not. Why bother with that if you are a professional? Take two minutes and fire off an email to the mastering engineer and/or label and get some straight answers. If I, as a regular person can do that, so can you, and as a professional that's what I expect. If Fremer got no answer, then he should say so. As readers we are left to assume he didn't take two minutes to do that and is just lazy or haphazard in his reviews. Yet again, he is the "professional", the "guru" and the "arbiter of quality" we are all supposed to listen to. What a joke, IMHO.
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Posted: 12 Jul 2019 at 10:15am |
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I sent Michael Fremer both my original vitriolic rant (perhaps unwisely), and the edited and somewhat more refined version. Also a copy of my original apology and explanation. Fair to say, he got the lot.
With all due credit to Michael, he replied to my emails and offered to publish my rant. I don't think it would make any difference either way. He rightly points out that my position was highly emotional, also that he was unable to fathom what got me so worked up? Well, I thought it was bleedin obvious! Also, that I'm a dark conspiracy theorist. Now, that's a position I was not expecting. But it certainly fits with the current climate of how to handle just criticism. If one dares to criticise the official party line on anything controversial one is immediately cast as a conspiracy theorist, which has been redefined in the modern media to mean :- NutJob, Wakko, Crackerjack Crackpot. Basically, it's an insult. We (the 'Passive Massive') are not suposed to hold views of that challenge the official spin doctor statement on anything. He claims I have provided 'nothing of substance' for him to respond to. Which is interesting considering his job is that of professional persuader, employing all of the skills that the writer possess in order to convince and align. Perhaps he assumes that readers are without any intelligence or credibility of their own, unable to read subtext, agenda or what is behind a smile. No substance in spin? Michaels final comment, 'And please give me something of substance to which I can react!' I guess, to quote Harry Nilson, 'The Point'. Just about sums up my thoughts.... 'The thing is, you see what you wanna see, and you hear what you wanna hear, you dig?' I write this from Lincolnshire, sat overlooking golden fields of mid summer sunshine. There appears to be a scarecrow in this picture, but no, upon closer scrutiny, it's just a Straw Man. ............. For sixteen nights and days he raved But on the seventeenth he burst Into the arms of Judas Priest Which is where he died of thirst. No one tried to say a thing When they took him out in jest Except, of course, the little neighbor boy Who carried him to rest And he just walked along, alone With his guilt so well concealed And muttered underneath his breath Nothing is revealed. Well, the moral of the story The moral of this song, Is simply that one should never be Where one does not belong. So when you see your neighbor carryin' somethin' Help him with his load And don't go mistaking Paradise For that home across the road. Songwriters: Bob Dylan The Ballad of Frankie Lee and Judas Priest lyrics © Audiam, Inc Finally.......Perhaps this should have been my only contribution on this subject????? Graham, Keep doing what you are doing. Producing outstanding high performance products is the most irritating and frustrating answer you can deliver to any critic. You have a devoted customer base who will always value your efforts and support your innovative endeavours. There's pride in ownership of Graham Slee products. Secure in the knowledge that audio performance is the No.1 priority. Satisfaction in the knowledge that value for money is integral. Pride in the ownership of hand made, British built, top quality products. Assured by outstanding service and support. Platinum achievements! Best, John. |
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I found that I was unable to post any comments on the AP Accession review page. I am in agreement with your comments, and have emailed Michael Fremer directly this morning with a copy of my edited opinion. Should any members wish to read this version please PM me and I will send you a copy privately.  Thanks, John
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