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2M Black / AT440MLa / MP500 setting and comparison |
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Bags
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I'm just reflecting on this thread.
Ortofon, AT and Nagoaka all make fine modern MMS these days. Arguably the technology hasn't moved on in the last couple of decades but I'm sure the build quality has, so the product, whichever flavour you prefer will be more consistent. Judging by the UK hifi press you'd think ortofon had left the others behind but I think that's marketing dollars speaking. It's interesting that most on this forum prefer the bronze (ml stylus) to the black (Shibata stylus.). If you like the bigger dynamics and soundstage of a Shibata stylus, then it seems much more at home in an AT cartridge body than an Ortofon one, even though most seem to think the ml stylus is the sweet spot in the AT range too. I'm an AT Shibata user and I've never known it misbehave like the Ortofon black can.
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CageyH
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I have similar findings with my AT20 SLa fitted with the SS stylus.
Simply sublime. A great cartridge. I am not sure modern cartridges are built any better these days. There is likely to be less demand, and increased costs compared to previous periods, when vinyl was big.
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Kevin
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Bags
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Increased cost for sure.
I can remember paying £40 for a Gold ring 1042 back in the eighties.
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gwebster
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£40 for one forty years ago. Allowing for inflation, how close would that be to the current price?
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Inspire Apollo tt, O/L modded RB250, Ortofon 2M Black, Slee Different Approach inspired Phono, Putzeys Pre, Cusat, Raspberry Pi/Volumio, Bitzie, Self Load Invariant Power, Acoustic Energy AE509s
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Fatmangolf
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Roughly doubled. Double again to current pricing.
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Jon
Open mind and ears whilst owning GSP Genera, Accession M, Accession MC, Elevator EXP, Solo ULDE, Proprius amps, Cusat50 cables, Lautus digital cable, Spatia cables and links, and a Majestic DAC. |
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Price is now about £300 so that's inflation plus £220.
Difficult to justify that sort of price increase on reduced demand, niche market, shelf space costs etc. To be fair AT, Ortofon have seen similar price increases.
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lfc jon
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James
You say niche, but with the popularity of vinyl at it's highest since the 80s to me it says two things, one people are not playing their vinyl or they are happy with the cart they have. Us lot that care about sound quality they get from their turntable are paying the price. Have you noticed that anything to do with vinyl records is expensive. It may be like me we are happy with are cart and just replace the needle.
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Reflex M, Solo (both with PSU-1) CuSat50, Lautus, Spatia & Spatia links cables. Ortofon Bronze.
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