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Lucabeer 
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 Posted: 23 Feb 2019 at 10:45am |
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I hope that with my post I didn't make the 2M Black come out as the "black sheep" of the group too much. Yes, it isn't as technically perfect in tracking as the other two, and it has a very particular sound signature that may sound a bit aggressive. But I am using it now to play the 4LP version of RHCP "Stadium Arcadium", which was a limited pressing on excellent vinyl (clean and flat: it has a silent background almost like that of a CD!) and mastered in an all analogue chain from 1" tape by none other than Steve Hoffman.... and it sounds MARVELOUS.
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Lucabeer
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Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 5:35pm |
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Small update... I am trying a 2M Bronze now too! Still new, but for the moment here are my impressions (fresh out of the box, just two albums played): 2M Bronze ----------- VTF: 1.7 g (a hair more than the Black) Antiskate: 2.4 (a tad more than the Black) VTA: 1 (same as Black) So far (just two albums), I can't detect any difference in timbre and quality compared to the Black except maybe for a hint less of aggressiveness and ringing on the cymbals (good!). It tracks slightly better on the Hi-Fi News test LP, and... it picks less surface noise than the Shibata of the Black. If these impressions are confirmed, I might even like it more than the Black, at half the price!
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Posted: 18 Apr 2019 at 10:56pm |
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Some more records played... and the thought that the Bronze stylus is more musical and relaxed than the Black keeps getting stronger and stronger. It's dead silent in the groove even on the 1963 Verve pressing of Duke Ellington's "Back to back" that I am listening to right now, and I am not finding anything lacking compared to the Black. |
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Posted: 25 Dec 2019 at 10:00am |
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After another few months where have you got toon black Vs bronze Lucabeer?
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Lucabeer
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Posted: 21 Sep 2021 at 10:12am |
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I had missed this last post! After 2 years, I can definitely say that I love the Bronze much better than the Black, and it has become my favourite "all around" cartridge. The others in my collection may have dedicated uses in which they excel, but the Bronze is the one that generally goes well with anything.
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lfc jon
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Posted: 21 Sep 2021 at 6:25pm |
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After reading up on it I ended up with the Bronze, they say it's the sweat spot in the range, Not too fussy on set up and tracks better than the Black. But saying that someone on this forum did say they preferred the Black and if my memory server me right said it tracks better. All I know for certain is that most said they preferred the Bronze. I'm vary happy with it and haven't had any problems
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Reflex M, Solo (both with PSU-1) CuSat50, Lautus, Spatia & Spatia links cables. Ortofon Bronze.
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TimW
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Posted: 21 Sep 2021 at 11:06pm |
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I went to an Ortofon event at a local dealer (Deco Audio) in Aylesbury a couple of years back. They demoed a lot of their range right from the 2M Red through the Quintet MC range and then finished with the top of the range MC Anna. It was all on the end of a pretty serious system (about £40k) and when they played Take Five via the MC Anna I just sat there staring at the wall, waiting for a curtain to drop to reveal Dave Brubeck himself. It was the most amazing “live” sound I’ve ever heard from a system.
The Bronze was my favourite of the MMs. I’ve had a Red and Blue myself and so will be in for a Bronze at some point - too many other carts at the moment to justify a new one (various Audio Technicas, Nagoaka, Shure, Stanton).
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