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Trouble with Goldring 1042

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    Posted: 16 Dec 2018 at 3:39pm
Thanks for letting us know how it worked out. The 1042 does a good job for the money and I can see how a lesser preamp can get in the way.
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Originally posted by morris_minor morris_minor wrote:

I used a G1042 on a GyroSE/Tecnoarm with my Reflex M for many years - and was very, very happy with it.

Although a Gyro and Technoarm is definitely not in my near future (very nice gear there), I can confirm that the Reflex M works a lot better with my Goldring 1042 than my current preamp. I'll write more in another thread, but it appears most of the problem I had with the 1042 was related to the high output creating overload in the one of the gain stages of my phono pre. The maker didn't stress test it for cartridges with higher output like this one. Clearly GS did, because even on very LOUDLY cut records I'm not getting the grainy distortion and exaggerated sibilance with the Reflex M. Why other phono preamp manufacturers don't account for this kind of thing is beyond me. 

In short, the Reflex M allows the cartridge to sing, while other phono preamps don't. 

Now, I still think there are some areas where my Stanton/Jico Shibata does better than the Goldring. It has wider stereo separation, more top end air, etc. However, I am finally hearing what the Goldring is really capable of. 
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I used a G1042 on a GyroSE/Tecnoarm with my Reflex M for many years - and was very, very happy with it.
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good so was I until I bought an accession -not that it makes the reflex look bad in anyway just the Accession is superior in all ways.
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Originally posted by Richardl60 Richardl60 wrote:

whilst not directed at the issue under discussion here the mounting bolts appear to be white plastic?

I have always used brass/nickel ones and wonder if anyone has undertaken any sonic tests between them?

My fuzzy logic would suggest that metal are likely to be more rigid, can be tightened more firmly but plastic would provide a decoupling effect?  
I have rarely seen arm components screwed together with plastic fittings.




Yes the mounting hardware is white nylon plastic. I never used this type of hardware until earlier this year. Before that I always used aluminum or whatever the manufacturer of the cartridge provided. I starting using this hardware because many Stanton users swear by it. With a Stanton, you either have to use these hard black plastic mounting blocks or the "double nut" technique with nylon hardware otherwise you can have a grounding issue. I had a hard time with the mounting blocks so I tried the nylon and it worked for me. 

The reason I put the nylon hardware on the Goldring is because the body design makes it hard to use many types of screws with this cartridge. I had several sets of different hardware on hand and this is the only one that worked for headshell. Too short, and it won't fit a thicker headshell. Too long, and you can't get the nuts on the screw because the body blocks you from doing that. Try it upside down, the screw heads are too big and won't fit. With the nylon hardware, the screw heads are a little smaller and I was able to get them to work upside down with the nuts on top. Many other cartridge manufacturers give more clearance around the body so it's not so difficult to use different types and sizes of hardware. 

In terms of the coupling/decoupling thing, I have no idea, but I have not had any problems using nylon hardware. Some folks have mentioned that it in some cases, it may come loose due to vibration and throw off your alignment. I haven't had that problem though. 


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Originally posted by Fatmangolf Fatmangolf wrote:

Nice photo! That looks right to me and seems a good combo with the Reflex M, as do the other carts. I've enjoyed The Crossing a couple of times since you suggested Porrohman as a test track, thank you.


With the Reflex, I think one of the main things for me is that the overload margin is much more generous than my current phono pre. Needless to say I'm impressed. 
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whilst not directed at the issue under discussion here the mounting bolts appear to be white plastic?

I have always used brass/nickel ones and wonder if anyone has undertaken any sonic tests between them?

My fuzzy logic would suggest that metal are likely to be more rigid, can be tightened more firmly but plastic would provide a decoupling effect?  
I have rarely seen arm components screwed together with plastic fittings.


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