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Thinking about a 1200G |
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Richardl60
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semi positive outcome john? Go for another? There was what appears a good value Origin live on eBay at the moment?
Since PP may seem to recover from technics wonder if you will get a call one day tomorrow return? Would you like me to email technics back from my earlier email highlighting A Friends unresolved plight? |
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Graham Slee
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A lot of these warranties depend on dealers to implement them. The dealer has call on the manufacturer for "free parts" and credits for labour against its product procurement debts. Thus, the manufacturer doesn't have any warranty workshop or staff of its own. In this case Eddies Superfi was closed for being insolvent and so the warranty could not be implemented (that's if they were set up for it). One would have thought Technics (Panasonic) could have redirected your issue to another dealer/agent, but as most are simply (online) supermarkets then they're stumped. Unfortunately discount hunting and discounting work hand in hand to bankrupt dealers/agencies who are/were established to provide customer care. Manufacturers enjoy the cash but fail their customers, but it won't be a case of all big manufacturers being the same (hopefully).
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That none should be able to buy or sell without a smartphone and the knowledge in how to use apps
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Drewan77
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I know it's academic but in defence of Superfi, I have a B&W PV1D which failed just outside of the warranty period, Superfi sent it back for repair & returned it to me with new warranty period. Then just inside the new warranty it failed again & Superfi once again organised repair with B&W. Courier costs were covered too. 6 years later it still works fine... fortunately.
Glad too that I got one of the earliest SL1200Gs & it remains near-perfect. In use the platter looks stationary apart from rotation of the smaller strobe dots (33rpm) so maybe mine was manufactured before the guys in Japan had pressure to meet demand?
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Older than I once was, younger than I'll be
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RichW
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Glad you got your money back Jon & hopefully you still have your 1200G.
Dreadful attitude from Technics - a big corporate bully by all accounts. Compare such an attitude with that of many small UK hifi companies. |
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Majestic/Enigma, Accession MM & MC.
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Old skool
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And I was so looking forward to buying a 1200G (at some point in the future when I have sold a kidney)
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Is the pursuit High Fidelity a sign of mental illness??
I think so.... |
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RichW
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That's at least two potential 1200G sales they've lost from their drastically below par customer service.
Shouldn't think it'll keep them awake at night though.. |
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Majestic/Enigma, Accession MM & MC.
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Mo-Tech
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Hi everybody,
A new member but found this thread to share my experience. I was looking for the GR but I got my S/H 1200G from Japan with a deal I simply could not refuse to take a risk on since the G is a class above the GR (and almost twice the weight too). I used to DJ too and the 1200 decks were always the best performers, from the practical side the swiftest use and sound wise the best sounding and damping in loud environment (Pioneers, Audio Technicas, Vestax went into low-end resonance more often). Once I received my 1200G it was fairly beat up, probably ex-DJ used, fair amount of scratches (probably from the beer cans sitting on the deck during the loud music parties - all familiar to me as well from the good ol' days), but compared to the classic 1200 mkX series this G thing is on another lever in every respect - it's really built like a tank! Aaand most of all, in a rare combination in it's heart it's really an hi-fi turntable, the classic 1200 series was close, but needed some modifications to "hit the spot", G does not need much, it's already there from the factory. (Proof below) Japanese are crazy good on packing things, but this time they shipped it with the platter attached, a colossal mistake! Thankfully it was taped to the chassis on multiple places. I measured - no wobble, even with a micrometer. The magnesium arm is a spot on tracker with it's low friction bearings (measured it with a test record and oscilloscope). Started with Ortofon OM10, then Van den Hul DDT-II Special that I've owned for 15 years on different turntables and finally decided the 1200G is worth more and went literally overboard, got a Van den Hul Colibri XGW proper high-end cartridge. With this I've finally found my dream combo sound-wise. I get to use DJ-like lightning-fast operating turntable (I play 7"/10" singles, 12" LPs and even 78rpm shellacks [just mount on a different headshell with Audio Technica Mono-SP MC cart, takes me around a half a minute with written down calibrated adjustments for weight and VTA]) and it sounds just fabulous with all the damping and magnesium arm elegance that puts all of my previous turntables (mostly Thorens) into shame, especially in loud listening where they audibly suffer, the G just sings! IMHO there's nothing on the market that does this. High-end/hi-fi players are mostly slow and cumbersome to use in practice, so if you listen a lot of music in various vinyl formats and need that high-end turntable quality at the same time - I think the 1200G is next to impossible to beat (well okay, probably only SP-10R or SL-1000R surpass it if you have exorbitant amounts of dosh to spend, with the rule of diminishing returns in full action). Translation: a huge 1200G fan here. Just to balance out some horror stories posted above. Hence don't count out the 1200G and I highly recommend to try this one-of-a-kind hand made table.
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