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Thinking about a 1200G

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    Posted: 26 Apr 2021 at 7:44am
Took the plunge last week 

AV Online offer the 1200G for £3000 on 0% credit for 24months 

Kinda had to!

I also have a pair of 1210mk2’s which I bought new back in 2006.  They’ll never wear out. 

Wish I’d bought the 1200G instead of the LP12!

Proper end game turntable. 

All the people I know who’ve been chasing the Garrard or L*nn dreams for decades are selling up since buying a 1200G. 

Believe the hype!
Is the pursuit High Fidelity a sign of mental illness??
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RichW Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Apr 2021 at 8:36am
Great to read the positive comments on the 1200G.
All the TTs I've owned to date have been belt drive & none has quite had the 'grip & drive' of 
digital despite having other qualities. 
Looking forward to listening to a 1200G & how it compares with belt drive's 'softer grip'..






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Originally posted by Mo-Tech Mo-Tech wrote:

You will wear out before they do, and you only live once - keep that in mind :)

Very true! SL1200/1210 Mk2, and in my case, one bought new and two I refurbished after buying off the bay. Luckily managed to buy NOS arms before they ran out. I find them ever so slightly bright, and maybe an LP12 might better it, but with a lot more faff.
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So I would need to add in the cost of the FX1200 upgrade as well, if Funk are still trading at that point in time. I believe that the magnesium arm can be improved on.

I am in no hurry to get a "G", as my SL1200 sounds superb. I have also pretty much spent my HiFi budget for the year. Wink


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SL-1200 mkII will NEVER die. I've seen this many times over and we abused them on different gigs you can't even imagine. The 1200 series is probably the most bomb-proof turntable ever made (along with mkX, GR and G). You will wear out before they do, and you only live once - keep that in mind :)

I agree on the simplicity, all the (weight, VTA, azimuth) adjustment - it's a breeze on the 1200. I've seen no other hi-fi turntable that can replicate this staggering level of ease of use on daily basis - from precisely adjusting it to playing a crazy wide variety of different vinyl formats in lightning-fast operation perspective (7" singles, 10" singles, 12" LPs/singles, 78rpm shellacs). The Technics 1200 series is an avid music-listener's dream come true, literally IMO. Just pick your budget and level - from 1200 mkX, GR to G depending on your budget.

About the fab FX1200 arm. The 1200G magnesium arm (which is stellar btw, especially with KAB hydraulic damper) looks pretty much the same size and mount as MKx arms, but I would not be 100% sure since Technics had to re-make almost everything on the G model. Remember they could only make max 20-30 1200G units per 24h at maximum factory performance - so it's largely a hand-made turntable (in comparison they could make multiple times those numbers by the automated units such as mkX and GR models compared to the G model). All the moulds are new on G, according the Technics technicians only the dust cover, start-stop button and arm lift are the same on G. The rest are completely newly made parts so basically completely new turntable made ground-up. 
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When my fully modified SL1200 Mk II dies, I hope to be able to get a 1200G.
I love the simplicity of setting the arm etc.
What I would like to know is if the arm is interchangeable with the SL1200. That way, I could keep my FX1200. Thumbs Up
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Hi everybody, 

A new member but found this thread to share my experience.

I was looking for the GR but I got my S/H 1200G from Japan with a deal I simply could not refuse to take a risk on since the G is a class above the GR (and almost twice the weight too). I used to DJ too and the 1200 decks were always the best performers, from the practical side the swiftest use and sound wise the best sounding and damping in loud environment (Pioneers, Audio Technicas, Vestax went into low-end resonance more often). 

Once I received my 1200G it was fairly beat up, probably ex-DJ used, fair amount of scratches (probably from the beer cans sitting on the deck during the loud music parties - all familiar to me as well from the good ol' days), but compared to the classic 1200 mkX series this G thing is on another lever in every respect - it's really built like a tank! Aaand most of all, in a rare combination in it's heart it's really an hi-fi turntable, the classic 1200 series was close, but needed some modifications to "hit the spot", G does not need much, it's already there from the factory. (Proof below)

Japanese are crazy good on packing things, but this time they shipped it with the platter attached, a colossal mistake! Thankfully it was taped to the chassis on multiple places.

I measured - no wobble, even with a micrometer. The magnesium arm is a spot on tracker with it's low friction bearings (measured it with a test record and oscilloscope).

Started with Ortofon OM10, then Van den Hul DDT-II Special that I've owned for 15 years on different turntables and finally decided the 1200G is worth more and went literally overboard, got a Van den Hul Colibri XGW proper high-end cartridge. With this I've finally found my dream combo sound-wise. I get to use DJ-like lightning-fast operating turntable (I play 7"/10" singles, 12" LPs and even 78rpm shellacks [just mount on a different headshell with Audio Technica Mono-SP MC cart, takes me around a half a minute with written down calibrated adjustments for weight and VTA]) and it sounds just fabulous with all the damping and magnesium arm elegance that puts all of my previous turntables (mostly Thorens) into shame, especially in loud listening where they audibly suffer, the G just sings! IMHO there's nothing on the market that does this. High-end/hi-fi players are mostly slow and cumbersome to use in practice, so if you listen a lot of music in various vinyl formats and need that high-end turntable quality at the same time - I think the 1200G is next to impossible to beat (well okay, probably only SP-10R or SL-1000R surpass it if you have exorbitant amounts of dosh to spend, with the rule of diminishing returns in full action).

Translation: a huge 1200G fan here.

Just to balance out some horror stories posted above. Hence don't count out the 1200G and I highly recommend to try this one-of-a-kind hand made table.
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