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LP12 spring removal

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    Posted: 11 May 2019 at 6:47pm
I guess you could remove the springs, or any other parts, but then it wouldn't be an LP12. I used LP12s for thirty years and tried a lot of things. Heard a lot of things other people had tried. Are they overpriced? They are now! 

The problem with defeating the suspension on the LP12 is that you remove what gives the deck its character. If you want to go that way you'd be better buying a deck already designed to have no suspension. 

And by the way, I think you'd get fairly epic motor noise on the LP12 without the springs. 
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I’ve done some recent upgrades to mine a mid 1970’s model I bought second hand in ‘96. Cost me about the same as a new RP3 at the time give or take £50.

I’ve always quite like it and I’ve not heard too many other turntables to be fair. It basically owes me nothing so I’ve applied a couple of upgrades.

Watching the platter rotate it definitely had a bit of a wobble so I checked out the plinth and it was a bit bent. I managed to get a corner braced fluted afro one of eBay and renovated it. Nice and flat and got rid of the wobble. While I was at it I bought a trampoline 2. Total job cost a shade under £300. I was quite pleased with the changes made to the sound but this could have been due to readjusting the desk when I rebuilt it.

The upgrade bug bit, I was really enjoying the changes wrought. I was looking at some YouTube stuff a saw the way the pre Cirkus bearing took an age for the spindle to settle into place. Mine just fell and need supporting. Checked it out with a dti and it was a bit knackered so splashed out on a Cirkus bearing kit. This made a huge difference, some lps with more complex arrangement became more listenable if that makes any sense.

So £800 invested and I’m thinking sub chassis next will it be 
Kore or 
Sole or 
Akula or
Stamford is the question.

It’s a lot of money but cheaper than a new deck which may initially please but I may fall out with over time. I’m never going to buy exotic MC cartridges so just need to bring the deck up to a complimentary level.

I blame Graham for the upgrade bug. I bought an Accession MM and everything started to sound fantastic and I got into reassessing the front end.

I’d also like to try a Groove Runner.
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I have a love/hate relationship with L*nn myself
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Must see it as a dirty word?
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Hamish Robertson (that's another story!) decided, probably through lots or research and testing, that a sprung subchassis was perfect. Why change it?
Years ago I fitted a set of L*nn LP12 springs and mountings to my Ariston turntable because the originals were  bit "tired". A perfect fit.Ermm I wonder why?
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Well it’s hardly directly connecting. All sorts of sorbothane bobbins and non metallic isolating stuff in between
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And connect the motor directly to the sub chassis? Why?? 
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