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The first electric conundrum calculator appeared in what's now Milton Keynes nearly 80 years ago!

It was soon realised that the planet wasn't big enough to be home to many more of these conundrum calculating monsters. Somebody needed to make smaller, less volt-hungry valves.

Linearity didn't matter as long as the needed device switched potential cleanly and quickly. Having joined in the race, the Russians made weird valves without heaters, which reduced power demands. Like a two-year-old, the Americans saw more fun in the packaging than its contents and decided on the technology of glass - yes, silicon (well, erm, it started with germanium, but we'll skip that).

N's and P's decided whether electrons or the holes they left behind did the work (dead-simplicity intended).

First came the diode, and then they stuck two together and gave it a cat's whisker, and the transistor was born. It's inventor: William Shockley.

They invited the world to come (build it, and they will come), but they only told their friends how to make them. The "enemies" would have to guess, but they guessed right, and the secret wasn't secret anymore.

So what could they make from the transistor? Radios, amplifiers, televisions, or something more sinister?

Thanks to capitalism, the sinister could be funded by the people buying mass-produced transistorized products, and who better than the kids. They got rock'n'roll in the West and mambo in the East.

Transistorized hi-fi was dying a death, and while the hi-fi press were inventing ever-sneaky ways of saving their bacon and that of their friends, the kids had had enough.

Orwell thought porn, booze, and football would be sufficient for the proles. Add to that the games console!

In 1976 the "cheap shop" was trying to sell a pack of 10 blank compact cassettes without luck. The reason was they were not TDK or BASF (even EMI couldn't get a foot on the ladder). They were Chinese, and the case halves were held together by melted polystyrene, probably done with a soldering iron, or it looked that way. They were basically sh*t.

Skip ten years to 1986, and the UK electronics industry was mothballing its home operations. It had started moving it all to China. The Regan -Thatcher economic rebalancing act had unwittingly created a gold rush.

The sinister had begun under the guise of humanistic progress. Let us not forget that it had all started from military beginnings, and it is now firmly headed to military endings - somebody else's military.

There are many connections with everyday life with these technological advances, far more than Orwell's porn, booze, and football could have ever achieved. The strings are being pulled by the very party Orwell's 1984 feared. Facebook, Twitter, and all kinds of apps are Orwell's "telescreens." The electric conundrum calculator has become so almighty powerful in the hands of our "former" enemies.

And as for this amplifier? I don't think I've done a bad job considering it's made from devices never intended for the job!
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 So what could they make from the transistor? Radios, amplifiers, televisions, or something more sinister?
Thanks to capitalism, the sinister could be funded by the people buying mass-produced transistorized products, and who better than the kids. They got rock'n'roll in the West and mambo in the East.
Transistorized hi-fi was dying a death, 

There are 'transistors' and 'Transistors' they say and it depends How you place it in the configured design....For myself I had to make do with Mos-fet Transistors when I asked for a WARM VALVE SOUND in late 1960'. And Mosfet I was told outlast Valves very resistant and durable and warm and in early 80'S new conceptions of Mos Fet came about .......but I believe to read you prefer the bi-polar configuration but never understood what the Hifi Saleman talked about to part my money for CD and Amplifier 
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Originally posted by Sylvain Sylvain wrote:

And Mosfet I was told outlast Valves very resistant and durable and warm and in early 80'S new conceptions of Mos Fet came about .......but I believe to read you prefer the bi-polar configuration but never understood what the Hifi Saleman talked about to part my money for CD and Amplifier 


Like a sugar confectionary - full of eastern promise - except one is, and the other not.
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According to the internet's massed wisdom, there is no reason that the FWCT betters the FWBR. In fact, it's the exact opposite!

The FWCT under-utilises the transformer by about 10% (by comparison) and requires higher voltage diodes. Otherwise, it does precisely the same current-wise and voltage-wise. The same mathematics apply.

Most power amplifiers are DC coupled, requiring a ground centre-point with positive and negative rails about it. Most of these DC coupled power amplifiers adopt FWCTBR (full-wave rectification - centre tapped transformer - with bridge rectifier).

The ultra-high-end amplifiers use a dual secondary transformer with two bridge rectifiers. I don't know the abbreviation for those.

So why exactly does the FWCT continue to work perfectly after two whole weeks on all the time, where the FWBR gave up the ghost (subjectively) after less than a week?

What do I mean by (subjectively)? Well, if what I hear must be classed as subjective by unwritten laws, then a deaf man on a skyrocket must be able to hear subjectively!

The distortion is not subtle. It creeps up gradually, and by day three, gives you tinnitus, through which you couldn't hear bass if it was there! Such distortion is termed as asymmetrical second-order (get your head around that one). According to Dinsdale et al., it is power supply derived.

The question is, wherein the power supply? Am I the one who has to answer this? Nobody else does!

Rewire it FWCT by replacing the bridge rectifier with a couple of 5 amp (continuously rated) diodes, using the same transformer, with secondaries in phase-series, taking the centre "tap" as the negative.

Then take the negative to the smoothing cap neg terminal, and the diode "sum" to the pos terminal - using the self-same capacitor, and it just keeps working!

By just keeps working, I mean the sound doesn't change by day three, day 7, or day 14.

The only answer I've been able to find so far is that dual secondaries in parallel might load each other due to slight voltage mismatches.

Before getting carried away on that one, I have to say I ditched one secondary by disconnecting it at one end. It changed nothing apart from the obvious - insufficient power to do full output.

Having said the above, there is always "M." Mutual inductance is guaranteed between dual secondaries, so disconnecting the electrical circuit doesn't disconnect the magnetic circuit.

Can I conclude anything yet? Should I just accept, or should I hold out for the truth? To prove this once and for all requires a single secondary transformer, but such things aren't available off the peg.

Maybe a dual secondary rated half the volts required, placed in series, might suffice, hopefully without "gremlins."

Part of me says, "why bother?" The FWCT works, and the amp sounds good. There was no other option in the valve-days. You could say this is some kind of miracle if you saw the awful constructional mess it has become. I'm sure many in "the great and the good" might declare triumph at this stage.
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Tremendous 'new knowledge'' you have kindly generated and shared gracefully .....perhaps a new section on the website 'Resource base'' perhaps the technical terms explained in lay man and we have updated H Hart or other for 2021.
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I've now swapped the transformer back to the anglo-dutch Amplimo transformer, which I bought a long time ago. It went to the transformer graveyard because the results went the usual way.

After identifying that dual secondaries in parallel might cause the eventual distortion - the Antek transformer doing an 18-day stint without change - I thought it would be good to try other off the peg transformers.

Every change gets tested, and the distortion sweep is shown below. Neg 12 dB equates to quarter-power, which is often considered the real stress-test for power amplifiers. In this case, it is 10 watts per channel into 8 ohms.

THD continuous sweep plot

The THD sweep is noise filtered to show true distortion, which falls to 0.01% at 1kHz, as you can see. High (and low) frequency distortion rises due to falling NFB but is still within 0.1% 20Hz to 20kHz.

The mounting position of the transformer is wrong, being at the centre of the ground induction loop. So the S/N was not surprisingly 70dB.

I will give this at least seven days always on, and then conclude the differences between the two transformers.
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I have accumulated several power supplies units over the years and thought to have achieved sufficient understanding to accept Dutch source transformers as the definitive  'Avant Guard' design and Construction and C core to supply Midrange range frequencies But your research experiment in Transformers efficiency and distortions merit an Official Publication. Audio enthusiast who spend many thousands to reach a more authentic and natural Tone  need to know of your IMPORTANT work. Pray for dedicated topical AUDIO DESIGN journal from GSP or as a Newsletter in layman language ..I pray.
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